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Old 28-12-2012, 15:31   #226
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Actually, that is a less than precise use of the term "3rd world": the term originated during the cold war, when the US, NATO, and other allies were the 1st world, the communist countries the 2nd world, and the non-aligned nations the 3rd world. (No prizes for figuring out who came up with the term that put the US 1st!)

Of course the term has come to imply other things, but it would be better to be explicit about those things than to use such a term so loosely.

Did you miss the above reference to the definition of "Third World?" I have included it again below. However, I know this is a very distasteful term to those imbued with the high moral sense of political correctness--a contagion that is infecting common sense and reality to the detriment of reason.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_World
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I'm in complete agreement with Neil on a previous post regarding his experience with the police and court systems both here in the USA and south of the USA border. Putting your faith in either is like placing your trust in pixie dust and unicorns. When things get ugly, reality is not like the Hollyweird movies where the good guys come racing to help you... one needs to be able to defend one's self and chase down the bad guys.
Well said. The reality is that regardless where we go on this earth each nation or social structure is designed to do the same Preserve our species, otherwise known as our society.

Some Based on varying levels of education and technology, and individual desires/beliefs, alter their methods of achieving those goals. But in the long run it's all the same with a few twists in processes here and there.

Most of us should have learned by now, that we need to be prepared to protect ourselves because rarely will one endanger them selves (politically, socially, physically or otherwise) to protect us.

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Well said. The reality is that regardless where we go on this earth each nation or social structure is designed to do the same Preserve our species, otherwise known as our society.

Some Based on varying levels of education and technology, and individual desires/beliefs, alter their methods of achieving those goals. But in the long run it's all the same with a few twists in processes here and there.

Most of us should have learned by now, that we need to be prepared to protect ourselves because rarely will one endanger them selves (politically, socially, physically or otherwise) to protect us.

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I don't beleive anyone is suggesting you don't protect yourself. What this thread shows is that ( assuming we have all the facts) is that such protection must be reasonable and consistent with the nature of the treat. Otherwise there are consequences. protection like anything else is not an open-ended right.
If in exercising that right you exceed the law, you have little choice , either you submit to " justice" or you flee, both have their problems.


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This certainly gives clarity to the subject matter.
How so?
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200+ posts about a subject that we don't even have any details about. I will admit that I was curious and Goggled it. But that gets you this thread, in other words the info isn't even out there to be "discussing"!
Best post so far in my opinion. We're up to 16 pages, tons of legal research, legal debate, discussions of comparative jurisprudence and constitutional law and legal history - and almost zero additional research or information on the facts of the actual case at hand.
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Speaking as a paralegal, I haven't seen any evidence of legal research, there has been no legal debate and there hasn't been any constitutional law or legal history cited.

Those who think otherwise are now invited to gnash their teeth and wave their arms.
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I don't beleive anyone is suggesting you don't protect yourself. What this thread shows is that ( assuming we have all the facts) is that such protection must be reasonable and consistent with the nature of the treat. Otherwise there are consequences. protection like anything else is not an open-ended right.
If in exercising that right you exceed the law, you have little choice , either you submit to " justice" or you flee, both have their problems. Dave
Dave,

I suppose it may have read differently than Intended. I don't suggest anybody shoot or otherwise harm somebody else. That is each individuals decision based on circumstance, bravery, over all safety or perceived safety and a whole lot of other factors.

What ever happens, whether it be an insurance claim, the resulting Dr's bills, criminal charges/investigations or attorney fees. We all need to be prepared to protect themselves from the results of our actions, or in actions. Either of the two will have repercussions (and probably need attorneys).

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Speaking as a paralegal, I haven't seen any evidence of legal research, there has been no legal debate and there hasn't been any constitutional law or legal history cited.

Those who think otherwise are now invited to gnash their teeth and wave their arms.
Most pointless post in this thread :-)
Maybe you'd have some actual input?
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For those interested here is a youtube video of Eric and his boat.
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OK This video sure added a little fuel to the discussion. If the Eric in this video is the Eric in this thread than whats happened to the woman, child, and dog on the boat. And again whats happened to the boat? Lastly, I've always been told to dont judge a book by its cover but...really? Come on. The Eric in the video looked about as baked as one can get. Looks like drugs might just have been involved here. Yes thats circumstantial. Just sayin...
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Thats hilarious! Just give him an eye patch, a Kitty, and some Guerrillas. Funny.
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We may be on the edge of 2013 but the old ways of judging a book by its cover is still alive and healthy as I know full well...
Look like this and you'll get pulled by UK/French customs regularly..
Look like a Rasta in the Carib and you'll be treated like a Rasta... free wil/choicel comes at a price from the great washed Majority...
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We may be on the edge of 2013 but the old ways of judging a book by its cover is still alive and healthy as I know full well...
Look like this and you'll get pulled by UK/French customs regularly..
Look like a Rasta in the Carib and you'll be treated like a Rasta... free wil/choicel comes at a price from the great washed Majority...

Agree! With a ship like this and the rasta look you have guaranteed a Hercules plane from customs flying around each time you are 20 miles from your destination , the Caribbean is no more that 30 years agoo Caribbean,
Love the way to start the engines ,lol.... from the Video looks like a cool guy , hope this is solved soon...
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Excerpted from Caribbean Compass (November 2011)
Regatta News (Page 12), concerning “The free Bequia Youth Sailors program”

“... In late May (2011), Eric Sommer, a French circumnavigator, anchored in Bequia. His dinghy was an Optimist. He “just happened” to have eight sets of Optimist sails which he had accepted, along with the dinghy, as a gift in French Polynesia. Andy traded his 14-foot fiberglass dinghy for Eric’s Opti and the eight sails ...”

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I take the point that in some places having a right to kill in own personal death zone is accepted as being as ok (and I make no argument with that).....but surely even in those places the legal authorities do slightly more than simply ask the survivor what happened and then take their word for it? (after all, it might be relevant that the dead person lived 20 miles away, had no criminal record and was last seen walking their dog in a park next to the householders minivan - and the dead person also just happened to be 21 with large breasts. and she was found to have broken into the home whilst butt naked ).

Wow.

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