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Old 16-04-2015, 21:02   #1
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Haiti attack on Cruisers.

I don't have much information except a cruising couple were attacked at Port a Pimet, Haiti in the early hours of this morning.
They needed medical help, but I understand they are OK

Thats all I have.

As Cuba opens up many more cruisers will sail past, or visit Haiti.
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Re: Haiti attack on Cruisers.

The couple are still in hospital.
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Re: Haiti attack on Cruisers.

Attacked while on the boat or ashore?
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Re: Haiti attack on Cruisers.

It seems those waters are becoming dangerous. On the end of January Fleur Australe the sailing boat of the Poupon family was attacked by pirates too. It seems fishermen with another line of work to get some more money.

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Fleur Australe - 21 Janvier : Pirates bord
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Re: Haiti attack on Cruisers.

Nothing new; it was 2003 when we skipped Haiti and land in Republica Dominica instead
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Attacked while on the boat or ashore?

Dunno.
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It seems those waters are becoming dangerous. On the end of January Fleur Australe the sailing boat of the Poupon family was attacked by pirates too. It seems fishermen with another line of work to get some more money.

The story here:

Fleur Australe - 21 Janvier : Pirates bord
Yes, I read the story too, Philippe got boarded at night by the very same fisherman community they bought fish from and gave food in the afternoon.

It seems that he is not very lucky with Fleur Australe, when he left her in Tahiti for a few months, when the familly came back their boat had been broken into and a number of things were missing.

Be nice with the locals and respect their culture...
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Re: Haiti attack on Cruisers.

Do you think it will work better if you are arrogant and ignore their ways?

Philippe is a very nice guy and I am quite sure don't have an arrogant attitude regarding other cultures. He is so nice that he says about the incident (translated):

"The crew of the Fleur Australe is a bit dazed from the night nightmare but keeps smiling.

This is certainly the price to pay for having access to these these intense and rare places, adventurous scales. .... We will not run away and will draw no conclusions about this act of piracy because to date we had met here only extreme kindness and magnanimity. This is what we retain.

This night and his memory is already disappearing in our wake as the few mishaps we had in 6 years cruising. Very little!"


Philippe Poupon proved to be a great solo sailor racing and winning many big races and he proves know that he is a great cruiser: Chapeau
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Do you think it will work better if you are arrogant and ignore their ways?
One way or another : same result.

I believe that just having a sailboat and cruising for leasure and pleasure has become arrogant in a number (increasing) of countries.
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One way or another : same result.

I believe that just having a sailboat and cruising for leasure and pleasure has become arrogant in a number (increasing) of countries.
In a certain way I believe you are right. The ones that have difficulty in surviving look increasingly with disgust the ones that on their home display what for them is unimaginable wealth that is used not for work but only for pleasure. Not defending by any way pirates or aggressive behaviors, just trying to understand why fishermen become pirates.
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Re: Haiti attack on Cruisers.

I think at least some of it is better reporting what with all the "social media" and there are more cruisers. It's just possible that the actual crime rate per 100,000 cruisers hasn't increased. Not saying this is true, just it's possible
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I think at least some of it is better reporting what with all the "social media" and there are more cruisers. It's just possible that the actual crime rate per 100,000 cruisers hasn't increased. Not saying this is true, just it's possible
It makes perfectly sense.

Answering your comment above, that is no excuse for piracy, but perhaps could we aknowledge that "we" over fish "their" territorial waters.
"Our" floating fishing factories ( I dare not call these things fishing boats) harvest (I can't call it fishing) "their" fish.
Commercial fishing licence money vanishes into "their" corrupted gvts deep pockets.
But telling "them" that we have banned tinned fish onboard would not make any difference.
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Re: Haiti attack on Cruisers.

Ok,
I am finally getting some information on yesterdays attack.

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Hi Mark, We have been very cautious about information as the family had not been contacted. We now have contact with the family. They were sailing from Cuba to Il de Vache. They had an awful crossing, so stopped to have a break. They were anchored at 19.36N 72.59W

They were boarded by 6 men and vicious beaten. He just offered for them to take anything they wanted, however they tied him to the railing of the boat and viciously beat him. He has a seriously bad broken arm, crushed finger, machete cut to the face. She was also beaten, her clothes torn off, she has a machete cut to the hand. We managed to get a contact there, who has now taken them a phone and we are able to communicate with them - only just within the last 1/2 an hour. I will keep you informed. Please advise people not to go near that part of Haiti. Apparently Isle de Vache is OK (however we personally would do no where near the place!)

They had all their solar panels stolen along with computers, navigation etc etc - the boat looks like a blood bath. We have the Australian Embassy involved (who have the Canadian Embassy involved). Mark, he is 70 years old and she is in the 60's
again, until the embassy gets there and the insurance company have been successfully contacted would rather not publicly give the boat name at this stage.
The boat name is Pelikaan - Hans and Fein. Again, please don't release that yet.

Actually Mark, apparently it is OK to release the information.
They are an Australian registered boat, however Hans & Fein are Dutch. They are from Sydney
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Thanks for the info, Mark. That sux...

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I am relieved these sailors have their lives ! Vicious attack.
Terrible.
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