Cruisers Forum
 


Join CruisersForum Today

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Rate Thread Display Modes
Old 09-02-2019, 04:34   #1
Registered User

Join Date: Jan 2017
Posts: 16
Unhappy Cruising Venezuela 2019

Is there anyone currently cruising around Venezuela, that could share information. We have heard such great things about Los Roques. Yes we are aware of the current situation, but is it as bad a people make it out to be. We were told Brazil was a NO GO area to. We went and we so glad we did , it was so great we spent 5 months sailing the beautiful coast. We have quickly learnt that one must take what Noonsite states with a pinch of salt. One only hears bad and never anything good. Please let's keep this threat to non political replies.
__________________

Sea Venture is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-02-2019, 04:48   #2
Registered User
 
daletournier's Avatar

Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Seychelles
Boat: Catalina 470
Posts: 3,130
Re: Cruising Venezuela 2019

I'm not sure about that. Voilent attacks don't happen until they do. A boat that was part of the cruising circle I knock around in was violently attacked in Brazil last year. I'm not comfortable cruising that coast due to that incident, if it was a one off, well then maybe, but it's not. It's the potential violence that concerns me, robbery is temporary, violence isn't always.

The problem with these places is when it goes wrong it goes very wrong. I was in Samal Philippines only a a couple weeks prior to the kidnappings, the kidnappings took place literally meters from where we had been moored, I knew one of the guys that got his head cut off. That incident changed my perspective regarding the odds.

Of course everyone has to do their own risk assessment.
__________________

daletournier is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-02-2019, 06:10   #3
Registered User

Join Date: Jul 2016
Location: Anguilla
Boat: CheoyLee Offshore 33
Posts: 497
Images: 1
Send a message via Skype™ to masonc
Re: Cruising Venezuela 2019

The crisis in Venezuela is heading towards a civil war and may escalate overnight. I wouldn't get anywhere it until it is resolved.
masonc is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-02-2019, 06:52   #4
Elvish meaning 'Far-Wanderer'
 
Palarran's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Boat - Bahamas and for SALE!!
Boat: 56' Fountaine Pajot Marquises FSBO
Posts: 2,923
Re: Cruising Venezuela 2019

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sea Venture View Post
We have heard such great things about Los Roques.
Is what you have heard from sailors who have been there in the last 15 years? I haven't heard a good thing about Venezuela from anyone in a very long time. I'm sure it's great if there wasn't a danger, but people have been attached and killed there - seems risky.
__________________
Our course is set for an uncharted sea
Dante

http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/...an-204234.html
Palarran is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 09-02-2019, 07:11   #5
Registered User

Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Somewhere Rabat Morocco and Surinam
Boat: 2004 Beneteau 473
Posts: 232
Re: Cruising Venezuela 2019

We are in Surinam ( very safe place btw , fantastic people , nature and food ) and were planning to go to Los Roques but I am considering giving it a miss due to everything thats going on
__________________
www.svbluepearl.com
ReneJK is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-02-2019, 09:10   #6
Registered User

Join Date: Sep 2018
Location: Maryland
Boat: 1985 Ericson 32-3
Posts: 60
Re: Cruising Venezuela 2019

I worked in Guyana (very friendly people!) in November and one of the locals I worked with said that they don't consider it safe. The influx of Venezuelan refugees have become a real issue in Guyana.
Checkswrecks is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 11-02-2019, 06:29   #7
Registered User
 
denverd0n's Avatar

Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Tampa, FL
Posts: 4,301
Images: 6
Re: Cruising Venezuela 2019

Quote:
Originally Posted by masonc View Post
The crisis in Venezuela is heading towards a civil war and may escalate overnight.
This ^^^^^


Venezuela, right now, is a powder keg that could ignite at any moment. The risks could be manageable today, and completely out of control tomorrow. Do you really want to be in a country that could erupt into civil war -- quite literally -- tomorrow? I don't.
denverd0n is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-02-2019, 06:37   #8
Registered User

Join Date: Jan 2017
Posts: 16
Re: Cruising Venezuela 2019

We , cruised Brazil, French Guiana, Suriname . All these countries were a NO GO area and we loved our time there we did these countries end of 2018
Sea Venture is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-02-2019, 06:40   #9
Registered User

Join Date: Jan 2017
Posts: 16
Re: Cruising Venezuela 2019

Those that have spent time replying to my question , have you been to Venezuela the last 6months. Or is it passed down info that you have read?
Sea Venture is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-02-2019, 07:06   #10
cat herder, extreme blacksheep
 
zeehag's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: furycame alley , tropics, mexico for now
Boat: 1976 FORMOSA yankee clipper 41
Posts: 18,374
Images: 56
Send a message via Yahoo to zeehag Send a message via Skype™ to zeehag
Re: Cruising Venezuela 2019

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sea Venture View Post
Those that have spent time replying to my question , have you been to Venezuela the last 6months. Or is it passed down info that you have read?
if you expect to find groceries, medical services, supplies of any kind, food or other goodies, you may want to pass vene. stores have been empty for 3 yrs, now. folks eating garbage. zoo animals beyond dead. have a great time.
i have friends living there. they tell me what is happening.
does 10 million percent inflation mean anything to you.
zeehag is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-02-2019, 13:23   #11
Registered User
 
denverd0n's Avatar

Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Tampa, FL
Posts: 4,301
Images: 6
Re: Cruising Venezuela 2019

The point is that information from 6 months ago, or 6 weeks ago, or even just 6 days ago is old information. The situation in Venezuela right now is extremely volatile, and changing every day.


I have friends who were living and working in Iran right before the overthrow of the Shah. Everything seemed okay -- until suddenly it wasn't. Foreigners there seemed to be reasonably safe -- until suddenly they weren't. Luckily for them, they were actually in England visiting friends when everything went sideways. Others were not so lucky. A Canadian couple they knew, who lived next door to them, has never been heard from since.


Having been through that, I can guarantee you that he would say you have to be crazy to plan a visit to Venezuela right now. A country on the brink of civil war is just about the most dangerous and unstable environment that you can find.


Your life, your choice, of course. I wish you luck if you decide to go, because you're going to need it!
denverd0n is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-02-2019, 14:52   #12
Senior Cruiser
 
senormechanico's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Aug 2003
Boat: Dragonfly 1000 trimaran
Posts: 6,525
Re: Cruising Venezuela 2019

It can happen quickly.

Here's actual video of Sadaam's takeover of Iraq:


__________________
One should try to "Die Young" as old as possible.
senormechanico is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-02-2019, 15:03   #13
Senior Cruiser
 
GordMay's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Thunder Bay, Ontario - 48-29N x 89-20W
Boat: (Cruiser Living On Dirt)
Posts: 33,692
Images: 240
Re: Cruising Venezuela 2019

The U.S. Department of State warns U.S. citizens against travel to Venezuela due to social unrest, violent crime, and pervasive food and medicine shortages. This travel warning also informs U.S. citizens that on July 27, the Department ordered the departure of family members and authorized the voluntary departure of U.S. government employees from the U.S. Embassy in Caracas...
https://ve.usembassy.gov/venezuelan-travel-warning/

Avoid all travel to Venezuela due to the significant level of violent crime, the unstable political and economic situations and the decline in basic living conditions, including shortages of medication, food staples, gasoline and water.
The Embassy of Canada in Caracas will be closed on February 12, 2019, due to planned demonstrations...
https://travel.gc.ca/destinations/venezuela

The Foreign and Commonwealth Office (FCO) advise against all travel to within 80 km (50 miles) of the Colombian border and 40 km (25 miles) of the Brazilian border. Drug traffickers and illegal armed groups are active along the border area with Colombia and Brazil and there is a risk of kidnapping. See Crime
The FCO advise against all but essential travel to the remaining areas of Venezuela, due to ongoing crime and instability. If you’re in Venezuela, you should keep your departure options under review. If the political situation worsens, the British embassy may be limited in the assistance that it can provide...
https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/venezuela

Do not travel to Venezuela due to ongoing high levels of violent crime, the potential for violent civil unrest, political uncertainty and shortages of food, medicine and other basic supplies.
There is a risk of kidnapping due to drug traffickers and illegal armed groups operating within 80 kilometres of the border with Colombia, particularly in the States of Zulia, Tachira and Apure...
https://safetravel.govt.nz/venezuela
__________________
Gord May
"If you didn't have the time or money to do it right in the first place, when will you get the time/$ to fix it?"



GordMay is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 11-02-2019, 15:12   #14
Marine Service Provider

Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 59
Re: Cruising Venezuela 2019

would you like a burial at sea? the people with guns are in charge. have you seen the movie "Captain Philips"?
if you are not worried about the politics In a country at war then politics don't matter and Trump must be OK to you. the point is politics affects you reguardless of your personal position.
wtmf is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-02-2019, 15:13   #15
Marine Service Provider

Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 59
Re: Cruising Venezuela 2019

would you like a burial at sea? the people with guns are in charge. have you seen the movie "Captain Philips"?
if you are not worried about the politics In a country at war then politics don't matter and Trump must be OK to you. the point is politics affects you reguardless of your personal position.
__________________

wtmf is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
cruising, Venezuela

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Saba 50: 2019 Saba Ordered! CalmSeasQuest Fountaine Pajot 52 30-01-2019 10:29
Want To Buy: Coastal Cruising Catamaran in SE Asia for 2019 jsmbythebay Boats For Sale and Wanted 2 01-06-2018 11:01
Caribbean Cruising 2018/2019 season - good or bad idea? jimp1234 General Sailing Forum 19 31-12-2017 01:06
Cruising Venezuela ? holmek General Sailing Forum 7 17-07-2016 10:53
Finding the monohull family cruiser for ARC 2019 tob Monohull Sailboats 27 25-01-2015 04:31



Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -7. The time now is 16:43.


Google+
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Social Knowledge Networks
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.

ShowCase vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.