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Old 07-06-2011, 11:30   #61
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While I do think crime is blown out of control in the cruising community, I have witnessed too much crime in the third world to be naive enough to think it isnt higher there. In my 63 years, I cant think of a situation where I have actually witnessed a crime in the US. I have personally seen 4 or 5 in the third world, plus multiple dingy or similar thefts of people I know. Lock it up, use alarms etc. Dont wear jewelry to town!
hyave been vic to more crime in usa than i have seen in 3rd world and i sail usually solo.....
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What are the laws for caring a weapon on board when traveling between different countries?
Every country in the world is different. There have been dozens of guns and boats threads on the forum, the subject literally beat to death. Go back and you will find out more than you ever wanted to know about guns, boats, cruising, laws, different countries and the opinion of every one on the forum.
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Re: Caribbean - Pirated Waters ?

"hyave been vic to more crime in usa than i have seen in 3rd world and i sail usually solo..... " Yeah...but werent you in California? that's the Third world! :>)
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kali and st louis.. had less in noo jork than in st louis or kali..LOL.... been all over usa--- worst places were st louis and san diego....carib was good and so was louisianna,fla and gulf coast were ok... mexico has their bandidos, but also there is port cpt--- so they(bandidos) dont like pix taken--lol or louisville sluggers and loud voices..LOL
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Re: Caribbean - Pirated Waters ?

There was a case a few years back of a yacht dissappearing off of the coast of LA USA. If was found some months later stripped and being used for drug trafficing. The same thing could happen some parts of Texas coast.
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every where in world is a pirate place-- anywhere there are bandidos and thugs and things to steal and use ..... goood luck and fair winds...
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It's only legal when tripod mounted on the bow.
What about a turret? Aren't turrets legal anymore??? ;-)
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only on some steel boats......
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ya pirates of the caribbean...I think i've seen a movie about that
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ya pirates of the caribbean...I think i've seen a movie about that
I thought the last one was one of the worst movies I've ever seen,,,
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What are the laws for caring a weapon on board when traveling between different countries?
See: firearms regulations country - Google Search
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What are the laws for caring a weapon on board when traveling between different countries?

It can be extremely difficult.

Take for example your own country the USA. Here is what you would have to do if you are on a forign sailing boat comeing to the USA

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. Non-residents arriving in U.S. waters with a firearm must apply for
permission to enter with the weapon by obtaining an approved ATF Form 6 in advance of arrival. It can take up to 6
weeks for ATF to approve the temporary importation, so masters of vessels are advised to submit their application

well in advance.
Now, I can tell you the USA is not the most draconian country in the world!
So if you have to stuff around for 6 weeks mailing off Form 6 and then waiting by the mailbox for 6 weeks you begin to wonder if its worth it!

Some countries, like Australia, take your guns and fly them to your point of departure. They charge you for doing that. So you dont have your 'protection' anyway.

Other countires (I think Indonesia) take your gun, but you have to return to that island to pick it up before leaving the country.... but the country is 1,000 nms long!

Mexico it seems that shotguns are totally illegal, where other countries shotguns are the only thing you can take in.

So many, realisticly, just don't need the hassel. And chuck the damn gun overboard.
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So what, outside of toting an additional passenger in the form of a snarling dog do folks use to protect them selves on the water. I mean, few things speak to a criminal like the muzzle of a gun. That is why law enforcement went to those instead of the small hand bats and truncheons. I guess I'm getting to the point I am ready to just buy a dozen "disposable" 38's and Davey Jones them or let the "authorities" take the weapon if ACTUALLY discovered. I don't intend on waving it around or wearing it around my neck, I just want an option.

I guess my next question is how often do sailboats get boarded by the authorities and searched, is it common?
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Re: Caribbean - Pirated Waters ?

I wouldn't worry too much about "Pirates of the Caribbean". What self respecting pirate wants a small, slow sailboat to use for smuggling? The most recent cases of boat theft (stolen from Miami marinas) usually involve high speed "cigarette" type boats. They run to Cuba in an hour or two, load up with people, drugs whatever and come back. Make two or three trips in a day (before the boat is even reported missing) and then scuttle the boat; home free.

Firearms will get you thrown in jail in many countries; not worth the risk (and I'm an NRA Life member) or the hassle onboard a boat. There is a very good chance you'll at some point be boarded and searched, do you want to spend several years in a third world jail?
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Firearms will get you thrown in jail in many countries; not worth the risk (and I'm an NRA Life member) or the hassle onboard a boat. There is a very good chance you'll at some point be boarded and searched, do you want to spend several years in a third world jail?
And think how happy the inmates will be... fresh white flesh... 'Party On...'
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