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Old 14-07-2012, 05:02   #1
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Turkey - Anchor chain

Looking for information on 10mm galv anchor chain produced and sold in Turkey.

Does anyone have first-hand knowledge on this?

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Old 14-07-2012, 08:20   #2
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Re: Turkey - Anchor chain

Hi Bill-
Cant help you there, but some info that may or may not help- I bought some 3 years ago in Piraus, Greece (Not sure where it came from) and its holding up better that the stuff i shipped from the USA- I bought 60 meters for 175e
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Looking for information on 10mm galv anchor chain produced and sold in Turkey.

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What sort of info , most chain in to DIN 766 unless its very nasty stuff

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Old 14-07-2012, 09:44   #4
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Looking for information on 10mm galv anchor chain produced and sold in Turkey.

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Be careful Bill there are a few different sizes of 10 mm chain make sure you get one that will fit your gypsy.
I got some very good G7 chain from Italy and delivered to Greece from Maggi group. PM me if you want the details.
Hi tensile chain G7 or at least G4 is worth considering, given the size of your boat.
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Re: Turkey - Anchor chain

OK, I know the size I need, etc., etc.

What I am looking for is:
1.) a possible argument to chain made in Turkey is good.
2.) first hand knowledge of a source in Turkey

I appreciate the current comments and all comments.

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Re: Turkey - Anchor chain

Ansi G chain is not common in Europe from my purchases, The only standard we have is DIN 766. Its a very hard call to really ascertain how good a chain is, unless from a well known and respected marine supplier. is an areas where FUD is found.

Can you get a spec sheet for the chain , thats a good start

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Be careful Bill there are a few different sizes of 10 mm chain make sure you get one that will fit your gypsy.
I got some very good G7 chain from Italy and delivered to Greece from Maggi group. PM me if you want the details.
Hi tensile chain G7 or at least G4 is worth considering, given the size of your boat.
+1 on Maggi Group's G7 - very good chain at a reasonable price.

noelex 77: glad to hear it worked out for you as well
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+1 on Maggi Group's G7 - very good chain at a reasonable price.

noelex 77: glad to hear it worked out for you as well
Yes thanks for the referral to them.
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Yes thanks for the referral to them.
actually the Maggi Group chain goes by the brand "aquaChain" and the version you mention is Aqua 7, ( which I don't believe is related to G7 an ANSI grade)

Aint come across it in Turkey though, its not cheap either ( its a very high spec chain)
see Aqua
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actually the Maggi Group chain goes by the brand "aquaChain" and the version you mention is Aqua 7, ( which I don't believe is related to G7 an ANSI grade)

Aint come across it in Turkey though, its not cheap either ( its a very high spec chain)
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Yes it's the Aqua chain
The G7 refers to the tensile strength of the steel which is 70kg per mm. Conventional Anchor chain is G3 or 30kg per mm.

The higher tensile strength of the steel gives the G7 chain a SWL of 2200kg ( about 4800 lb)conventional G3 has SWL of of about 1000kg ( 2200ib)

The snatch loads of high tensile chain is little less so the figures slightly exaggerate the difference, but it's still substantially stronger. They are also regarded as a quality chain manufacturer which gives great piece of mind. Some of the Chinese chain commonly sold has a reputation for poor quality control. As my 47 foot boat is on the limit for 10mm chain and I anchor in some adverse conditions so the extra security is reassuring.

The aqua chain can be individually tested and certified for an extra fee.

It is available in 10x28 and 10x30 which are the two most common sizes of 10mm chain

It is difficult to get imported goods into Turkey so getting this Italian made chain there would be expensive, but there are many Greek islands only a few nautical miles away from most of Turkeys coast. Crusing sailors that want imported parts etc (especially from the EU) often order them to be delived to the nearest Greek island.
I have seen BeBe several times in the Greek islands so I know Bill will be aware of this.
Goods that can be produced in the country tend to be cheap in Turkey so Bill is questioning the quality and availability of this local chain. The heavy weight of chain means it cannot be collected as easily as other spare parts.
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I have seen BeBe several times in the Greek islands so I know Bill will be aware of this.

Goods that can be produced in the country tend to be cheap in Turkey so Bill is questioning the quality and availability of this local chain. The heavy weight of chain means it cannot be collected as easily as other spare parts.
Thanks, Noelex. Yes, I am aware of the EU/Turkey imports, duty, VAT, etc.

What I am looking for is first-hand information regarding quality and availability of Turkish-made 10mm chain in Turkey.

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Re: Turkey - Anchor chain

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OK, I know the size I need, etc., etc.

What I am looking for is:
1.) a possible argument to chain made in Turkey is good.
2.) first hand knowledge of a source in Turkey

I appreciate the current comments and all comments.

Thanks,

Bill
Hi Bill,

We buy every year 300-400 meters of 10 or 12 mm locally produced anchor chain for our charter fleet and never had any problem at all so far. (It would unthinkable that a country that is second big in the world in making megayatchs, 6 th in big super tankers and freighters be unable to produce anchor chains..)

The largest company that we work with is Atlı Zincir. Check their web site in english :

Atl Zincir, ne ve Makina Sanayi A.

Meanwhile, I just want to remind you that Turkey is not a part of EC but has a custom union with EC since ages , hence, there are no (there cannot be..) custom duty for any product imported from the EC, except for some specific articles like cars, etc. Imports from China in particular is a different matter..
If you need any specific info you can PM me.

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Hi Bill,

We buy every year 300-400 meters of 10 or 12 mm locally produced anchor chain for our charter fleet and never had any problem at all so far. (It would unthinkable that a country that is second big in the world in making megayatchs, 6 th in big super tankers and freighters be unable to produce anchor chains..)

The largest company that we work with is Atlı Zincir. Check their web site in english :

Atl Zincir, ne ve Makina Sanayi A.

Meanwhile, I just want to remind you that Turkey is not a part of EC but has a custom union with EC since ages , hence, there are no (there cannot be..) custom duty for any product imported from the EC, except for some specific articles like cars, etc. Imports from China in particular is a different matter..
If you need any specific info you can PM me.

Cheers
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Yeloya do you have a contact for ULTRA Anchors in Turkey?

You surprised me re Turkeys Manufacturing, thanks Frank.
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Yeloya do you have a contact for ULTRA Anchors in Turkey?

You surprised me re Turkeys Manufacturing, thanks Frank.
Mr Erkutay Yücel is the Sales manager and head engineer at Boyut Marine (Ultra Anchors).

Phone: +90 212 482 4161 - 63
Fax: +90 212 482 2881
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Email: erkutay@boyutmarine.com
Web: www.boyutmarine.com

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