Cruisers Forum
 


Join CruisersForum Today

Reply
 
Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
Old 10-03-2016, 08:40   #46
Registered User
 
Lizzy Belle's Avatar

Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: Netherlands
Boat: Ohlson 29
Posts: 1,522
Re: No more DIY antifouling in EU countries?

Oh look, a unicorn!

__________________

__________________
"Il faut Ítre toujours ivre." - Charles Baudelaire
Dutch ♀ Liveaboard, sharing an Ohlson 29 with a feline.
Lizzy Belle is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-03-2016, 08:42   #47
Registered User
 
Rustic Charm's Avatar

Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Tasmania, Australia
Boat: Bieroc 36 foot Ketch
Posts: 4,898
Re: No more DIY antifouling in EU countries?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lizzy Belle View Post
Oh look, a unicorn!

What where
__________________

__________________
Rustic Charm is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-03-2016, 08:43   #48
Registered User
 
Lizzy Belle's Avatar

Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: Netherlands
Boat: Ohlson 29
Posts: 1,522
Re: No more DIY antifouling in EU countries?

A government concerned about their citizens health ... acting proactively to remedy that ...
There MUST be rainbows and unicorns too!



(Sorry, drunk on sunshine. I'll be back to normal soon )
__________________
"Il faut Ítre toujours ivre." - Charles Baudelaire
Dutch ♀ Liveaboard, sharing an Ohlson 29 with a feline.
Lizzy Belle is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-03-2016, 08:47   #49
Registered User
 
Rustic Charm's Avatar

Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Tasmania, Australia
Boat: Bieroc 36 foot Ketch
Posts: 4,898
Re: No more DIY antifouling in EU countries?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lizzy Belle View Post
A government concerned about their citizens health ... acting proactively to remedy that ...
There MUST be rainbows and unicorns too!



(Sorry, drunk on sunshine. I'll be back to normal soon )
Oh, im dry at the moment. Its almost 3am, a drink of someth would helped me get to sleep. Good night. Im off to dream of unicorns
__________________
Rustic Charm is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-03-2016, 08:48   #50
Registered User
 
Lizzy Belle's Avatar

Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: Netherlands
Boat: Ohlson 29
Posts: 1,522
Re: No more DIY antifouling in EU countries?

g'night, RC, sleep well !
__________________
"Il faut Ítre toujours ivre." - Charles Baudelaire
Dutch ♀ Liveaboard, sharing an Ohlson 29 with a feline.
Lizzy Belle is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-03-2016, 08:49   #51
Freelance Delivery Skipper..
 
boatman61's Avatar

Community Sponsor
Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: UK/Portugal
Posts: 20,203
Images: 2
Send a message via Skype™ to boatman61
pirate Re: No more DIY antifouling in EU countries?

A lot of this is driven by the Talking Heads who are looking for new ways to make stories and motivated by 'Contacts' (people don't seem to have friends anymore) and wish to promote their own agenda (money) so we get a never ending stream of Diet, Health, Safety, Confidence builders etc appearing on the news to tell us what we know.. and convince us that we don't know because we are to stupid to know..
Somewhere along the way it gets lost that people make their own choices in life.. sadly there's always some egotistical prat who knows better than us.
Statistics can work anyway one chose's to twist them.. and surveys are manipulated in the phrasing of the question..
__________________


Born To Be Wild
boatman61 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 10-03-2016, 09:00   #52
Registered User

Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Switzerland
Boat: So many boats to choose from. Would prefer something that is not an AWB, and that is beachable...
Posts: 1,242
Re: No more DIY antifouling in EU countries?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jason Flare View Post
I'm not a fan of processed food and the government is involved.

80% of Processed Foods in US Are Banned In Other Nations | Natural Society
99% of all statistics are made up.
__________________
K_V_B is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-03-2016, 09:10   #53
Registered User

Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Massachusetts
Boat: Formosa 41
Posts: 569
Re: No more DIY antifouling in EU countries?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lizzy Belle View Post
Just between you and me: I don't think that's the real reason
Just the way they decided to sell it. It's all in the marketing.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lizzy Belle View Post
A government concerned about their citizens health ... acting proactively to remedy that ...
There MUST be rainbows and unicorns too!



(Sorry, drunk on sunshine. I'll be back to normal soon )
As you say above, and I agree with, the government is using the health of its citizens as an excuse for this law. (Per the OP.)

My position is that government uses all the arrows in its quiver to expand itself. Some of those arrows are labeled, "health," "welfare,""environment."

Is government disingenuous? Absolutely.

Enjoy the sunshine.
__________________
Jason Flare is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-03-2016, 09:13   #54
Registered User

Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Massachusetts
Boat: Formosa 41
Posts: 569
Re: No more DIY antifouling in EU countries?

Quote:
Originally Posted by K_V_B View Post
99% of all statistics are made up.
I agree. And it's going up.
__________________
Jason Flare is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-03-2016, 09:21   #55
Freelance Delivery Skipper..
 
boatman61's Avatar

Community Sponsor
Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: UK/Portugal
Posts: 20,203
Images: 2
Send a message via Skype™ to boatman61
pirate Re: No more DIY antifouling in EU countries?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jason Flare View Post
There doesn't have to be a link proving that people who apply anti fouling are getting cancer. It has been determined a carcinogen by the government. The government uses the possibility of people getting cancer to expand said government, all the while praising themselves for nipping an inevitable tragedy in the bud.

Government likes to expand itself. There is little historical evidence to the contrary.
Unless it relates to the Motor, Oil and Nuclear Industry's.. then its everything else's fault
__________________


Born To Be Wild
boatman61 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 10-03-2016, 09:29   #56
Senior Cruiser
 
Cheechako's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Skagit City, WA
Posts: 19,359
Re: No more DIY antifouling in EU countries?

Boy... they love to protect you from yourself over there don't they? As if some former burger flipper yard boy can do it better than you. The guys with lots of experience wouldnt be caught anywhere near bottom work.
__________________
"I spent most of my money on Booze, Broads and Boats. The rest I wasted" - Elmore Leonard











Cheechako is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-03-2016, 16:11   #57
Registered User

Join Date: Nov 2014
Posts: 23
Re: No more DIY antifouling in EU countries?

sadly these people in Europe put themselves in a position of authority, and could not organise an affair in a brewery ,never mind trying to tell the rest of us how to run our lives,whilst collecting their big salaries, most if in business would be bankrupt, the quicker uk departs Europe and gets out of these unreasonable cockups the better.
__________________
terrysandling is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-03-2016, 16:21   #58
Registered User
 
Nicholson58's Avatar

Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Live aboard
Boat: Camper & Nicholson58 Ketch - ROXY Traverse City, Michigan No.668283
Posts: 3,466
Images: 83
Re: No more DIY antifouling in EU countries?

I think the "safety" theme is a red herring. When something makes no logical sense, follow the money. Someone (the boat yard owners & workers collective for instance) thinks they will make more money by forcing us to pay for professional services and paint mark-ups. I assume the paints will be controlled substances you cannot buy or import.
__________________
Nicholson58 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-03-2016, 23:12   #59
Registered User

Join Date: Jan 2016
Posts: 429
Re: No more DIY antifouling in EU countries?

Getting re-elected to that beautiful gravy train drives every single thing all governments and all individual politicians do.

If a politician motivated by more than greed exists anywhere on this planet he, she or it is there for the respect, position and power - just like the priests.

Blowhard, posturing, pink-skinned blimps strutting and boasting like boxers come election time - give me a break.

Democracy gives us the politicians we deserve though, so we're to blame.
Democracy always was, is and always will be a crock until education is universal and decent enough that voters can see them for what they are.

Technologically we're racing ahead but societally & culturally I think we're dumbing down alarmingly. This is exactly where politicians need us to be though - compliant, gadgeted up and unable to tell **** from Shinola.

No offence if you're not seeking public office

Call this a rant? This is nothing...
__________________
unclemack is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-03-2016, 00:29   #60
Registered User

Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: La la Land
Boat: 37' Oyster Heritage
Posts: 410
Re: No more DIY antifouling in EU countries?

IIRC you can't do your own antifoul in New York State either!

I hope this is one of those daft EU regulations that gets ignored by most sane people. Here in the UK we suffer from a 'gold plating effect'.

Any directive is added to and burnished so the politician or bureaucrat can increase their fiefdom. An aspect that has not featured in the current memebership debate.
__________________

__________________
LPG? http://www.sestina-services.co.uk/
sestina is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
More People On More Boats More Often thekiwi Commercial Posts 0 11-06-2014 19:43
It seems the more we look and read, the more confused we get about the boat to buy! terminalcitygrl General Sailing Forum 97 12-12-2012 19:52
More Pics, More Blog Entries, and 'Communications in the Bahamas' Labatt Atlantic & the Caribbean 5 02-05-2009 11:08



Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -7. The time now is 19:44.


Google+
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Social Knowledge Networks
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.

ShowCase vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.