Cruisers Forum
 


Join CruisersForum Today

Reply
 
Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
Old 09-09-2013, 07:39   #16
Registered User

Join Date: Apr 2013
Posts: 4,890
Re: Mugged - by a marina

Quote:
Originally Posted by Normanby View Post
Maybe it's time for some kind of central "review" website for cruisers, like "trip advisor" is for regular travellers.

Businesses servicing tourists go to great lengths to keep their Tripadvisor ratings up, the site has considerable influence.

Be great if some kind of marina review website had the same pull over marina operators.
In North America, Active Captain is a good approximation and I've yet to find a marina that doesn't have at least basic info listed.

I've noticed, it's starting to catch on in Europe but still spotty there.
__________________

__________________
valhalla360 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-09-2013, 07:41   #17
Registered User
 
zboss's Avatar

Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: On a boat
Boat: Cabo Rico 38
Posts: 3,431
Re: Mugged - by a marina

If you put it on your credit card just challenge the payment through visa. You will never hear anything again.
__________________

__________________
zboss is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 09-09-2013, 07:49   #18
Registered User

Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Latchi Cyprus
Boat: Dean 365 Catamaran
Posts: 135
Re: Mugged - by a marina

I am a contribtor for Active Captain - but have been constrained by our on-board wifi - am waiting for a gap to do the lot.
__________________
dont worry - be happy
krissteyn is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-09-2013, 07:50   #19
cat herder, extreme blacksheep
 
zeehag's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: furycame alley , tropics, mexico for now
Boat: 1976 FORMOSA yankee clipper 41
Posts: 17,779
Images: 56
Send a message via Yahoo to zeehag Send a message via Skype™ to zeehag
Re: Mugged - by a marina

kris--buen provecho--i hope all works out for you .
zeehag is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 09-09-2013, 08:31   #20
Registered User

Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: liveaboard
Boat: 36' solaris sunrise catamaran
Posts: 392
Re: Mugged - by a marina

Hi Kris,

thats a bummer-thieving barstewards.

Hope all goes well

Peter
__________________
rivonia is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-09-2013, 08:55   #21
Senior Cruiser

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: between the devil and the deep blue sea
Boat: a sailing boat
Posts: 17,314
Re: Mugged - by a marina

The same rule applies in some Maroccan marinas. It is not a cheat, it is just the way they charge.

Greece is in deep economical and social trouble. Tourism is their important income source. You are the tourist.

Play nice. Sometimes you get 'penalized' just because you have disrupted someone's siesta.

This is South. Learn to think the South way and you will be fine.

b.
__________________
barnakiel is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-09-2013, 09:20   #22
Registered User

Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: liveaboard
Boat: 36' solaris sunrise catamaran
Posts: 392
Re: Mugged - by a marina

Quote:
Originally Posted by barnakiel View Post
The same rule applies in some Maroccan marinas. It is not a cheat, it is just the way they charge.

Greece is in deep economical and social trouble. Tourism is their important income source. You are the tourist.

Play nice. Sometimes you get 'penalized' just because you have disrupted someone's siesta.

This is South. Learn to think the South way and you will be fine.

b.
The difference here being that Kris wanted to check out BEFORE midnight but the thieving barstewards decided to bugger off early and so check out was not able to be done
__________________
rivonia is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-09-2013, 09:41   #23
Registered User

Join Date: May 2013
Posts: 59
pirate Re: Mugged - by a marina

Hi KRIS
I am not sure who tried what pull on you
but responsible seemingly is a male manager Mr. Patsioydis
...and his "Boss" is a public company with a reputation (to loose):
Hellenic Tourism Properties S.A.
"You can contact us either by e-mail, completing the special form in the adjacent column, or by fax to 210 3339712, explaining in detail your complaint regarding our services."

http://www.thessaloniki-marina.gr/

Marina Manager : Mr G. Patsioydis
Tel. : +30-2310-444.598 and +30-2310-444.595
Fax : +30-2310-444.585
e-mail : thess-mar@etasa.gr

Thessaloniki Marina is managed
by Hellenic Tourism Properties S.A.
a leading Greek real estate asset manager,
acting in between the Public & Private sector

CONTACT
Contact us by email at info@etasa.gr,
or dial one of the following telephone or fax numbers, depending on your request.

CEO’s Office
Tel.: (+30) 210 3339 510 / 566
Fax: (+30) 210 3339 507

+++

BTW: They seem to have pulled their Berthing-Contract - Application form
http://www.thessaloniki-marina.gr/do...si-Simvasi.doc
gives a 404 not found

Online Pricelist is from 2011 (but seems reasonable)
http://www.thessaloniki-marina.gr/PRICELIST_2011.pdf

Under REGULATIONS you find only prices for Electricity,Tel. and Water:
http://www.thessaloniki-marina.gr/REGULATIONS.pdf
+++

I think at least one of the above is better then the town mayor
Good luck
__________________
vRUN is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-09-2013, 09:57   #24
Registered User

Join Date: May 2013
Posts: 59
pirate Re: Mugged - by a marina

Quote:
Originally Posted by barnakiel View Post
...Tourism is their important income source. You are the tourist.

...This is South. Learn to think the South way and you will be fine.
...yeah...
I am a valuable source of income - a cow to be milked
And since they are bankrupt - I learn to "go south" as well...


sheeesh
__________________
vRUN is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-09-2013, 12:18   #25
Registered User

Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Latchi Cyprus
Boat: Dean 365 Catamaran
Posts: 135
Re: Mugged - by a marina

Thanks vRUN , will continue the process....

I am not sure I will get my money back , but this is a process I will follow thru on...

I am un-likely to ever return to that marina so hopefully my info is usefull to every potential customer - I have already updated Cruisers-wiki !

kris
__________________
dont worry - be happy
krissteyn is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-09-2013, 13:15   #26
Registered User
 
Celestialsailor's Avatar

Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: In Mexico, working on the boat
Boat: Hallberg Rassy 35. and 14ft.Whitehall pulling skiff.
Posts: 8,013
Images: 5
Re: Mugged - by a marina

Seems every Marina is different on this coast. This on in Marina Del Rey wanted a $30 deposit on a card key. No problem except they told me it will take over 60 days to refund my debit card. I have a feeling they will conveniently forget as I probably will also.
__________________
"Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well-preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming: Wow - what a ride!"

http://wwwjolielle.blogspot.com/
Celestialsailor is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-09-2013, 13:51   #27
CF Adviser
 
Bash's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: sausalito
Boat: 14 meter sloop
Posts: 7,260
Re: Mugged - by a marina

Quote:
Originally Posted by Celestialsailor View Post
Seems every Marina is different on this coast. This on in Marina Del Rey wanted a $30 deposit on a card key. No problem except they told me it will take over 60 days to refund my debit card. I have a feeling they will conveniently forget as I probably will also.
Yep. In Santa Barbara you have to purchase the key. They'll reactivate it for you if you ever return. If you never plan to return, you still have to purchase the key.
__________________
cruising is entirely about showing up--in boat shoes.
Bash is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-09-2013, 14:02   #28
Moderator
 
JPA Cate's Avatar

Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: aboard, cruising in Australia
Boat: Sayer 46' Solent rig sloop
Posts: 10,719
Re: Mugged - by a marina

Some places in Australia the key deposit is $50. However, they usually refund the deposit in cash or take the amount off the bill.
__________________
Ann, with Jim, aboard US s/v Insatiable II, in Oz, very long term cruisers
JPA Cate is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-09-2013, 15:07   #29
Registered User
 
Celestialsailor's Avatar

Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: In Mexico, working on the boat
Boat: Hallberg Rassy 35. and 14ft.Whitehall pulling skiff.
Posts: 8,013
Images: 5
Re: Mugged - by a marina

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bash View Post
Yep. In Santa Barbara you have to purchase the key. They'll reactivate it for you if you ever return. If you never plan to return, you still have to purchase the key.
Yep...I was there last week. Just another $7. It adds up after awhile.
__________________
"Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well-preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming: Wow - what a ride!"

http://wwwjolielle.blogspot.com/
Celestialsailor is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-09-2013, 15:28   #30
Senior Cruiser

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: between the devil and the deep blue sea
Boat: a sailing boat
Posts: 17,314
Re: Mugged - by a marina

Quote:
Originally Posted by rivonia View Post
The difference here being that Kris wanted to check out BEFORE midnight but the thieving barstewards decided to bugger off early and so check out was not able to be done
You cannot check out while they are not there. This one thing remains fixed, even in places where time seems to be relative.

You know 'early' is a relative term too. And the more South you will go, the earlier it will become ...

So, you had your lesson. I hope you like Retsina and goat cheese. What you paid for that lesson you will more than make up in lower wine and food prices.

Take care, smile, tomorrow another sunny sailing day!
b.
__________________

__________________
barnakiel is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off




Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -7. The time now is 10:06.


Google+
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Social Knowledge Networks
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.

ShowCase vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.