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04-02-2012, 17:40
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Registered User
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Italian Boat Tax
Anyone know the latest outcome re proposed boat tax for cruising Italian waters. Believe it will apply to both marinas and boats at anchor.
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04-02-2012, 17:48
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Re: Italian Boat Tax
Noonsite lists the following:
Noonsite: Italy: New Boat Tax Proposed for 2012
It would appear that the bill has become law and will go into effect in May of this year.
http://www.romefile.com/information/...n-boat-tax.php
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04-02-2012, 18:25
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Re: Italian Boat Tax
Did I read it correctly and only applies to boats over 10.1 meters?
Reductions for age of vessel, and on sailboats another reduction?
It sounds like for the average sailboat cruiser, it will be a zero to small daily tax?
If I got it right, if you have a 12 meter sailboat that is older than 15 years, then the 5 Euro per day fee would drop to 1.5 Euro.
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04-02-2012, 18:40
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Re: Italian Boat Tax
It does seem to apply to boats greater 10m. As with many new laws it is vague in some areas and one is left to wonder if the provisions for reductions due to age etc are for all boats or only for those owners who pay for the annual permit. Hopefully it applies to all, but we will have to wait and see how it winds up being applied.
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04-02-2012, 18:56
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Re: Italian Boat Tax
I think it is a calculated move to increase revenue. They figure folks with 45'+ powerboats will pay the tax and still cruise, whereas us sailors on the cheap (myself included) would avoid Italy and deprive the economy of many tourists dollars, hence the breakdown. I know it isn't that much, but an extra $200 a month in taxes is a stiff cruiser's fee.
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05-02-2012, 03:27
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Quote:
Originally Posted by deckofficer
I think it is a calculated move to increase revenue. They figure folks with 45'+ powerboats will pay the tax and still cruise, whereas us sailors on the cheap (myself included) would avoid Italy and deprive the economy of many tourists dollars, hence the breakdown. I know it isn't that much, but an extra $200 a month in taxes is a stiff cruiser's fee.
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Or a calculated move to be seen to be attempting to raise revenue. Remember Italy is basically bankrupt, is being bailed out by EU and IMF, and is being harshly criticized for financial irresponsibility. So appearances are important. Net effect of this will probably by lost total revenue, especially when you consider the cost of collecting 5 euros * 50% * 85% = 2.13 euros from every 5 year old visiting Beneteau 39; give me a break.
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05-02-2012, 13:31
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Re: Italian Boat Tax
We spend five months sailing if it was a three week holiday wouldn't worry us but our boat is 25 metres so adds up. We will see what happens when we get there but will definitely leave for other waters, shame as we like Italy (and we spent heaps ashore). Certainly won't be wintering there.
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02-03-2012, 10:52
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Re: Italian Boat Tax
Italian tax cancelled (berthing tax ) on all foreign yachts the tax will now only apply to Italians and it doesnt matter weather they have a Italian flagged vessel or not
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02-03-2012, 11:19
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Re: Italian Boat Tax
Thanks this is good news so now we will stay in Italian waters longer.
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02-03-2012, 11:26
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Re: Italian Boat Tax
Quote:
Originally Posted by beneteau-500
Italian tax cancelled (berthing tax ) on all foreign yachts the tax will now only apply to Italians and it doesnt matter weather they have a Italian flagged vessel or not
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Obviously some serious lobbying ($$$) has been going on .
Easy peasy for an Italian to not own a boat - just not cost effective for the average Joe. The more things change, the more they stay the same........
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05-03-2012, 06:00
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Re: Italian Boat Tax
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14-03-2012, 04:05
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Marine Service Provider
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Re: Italian Boat Tax
Good morning every body.
I am Giovannella Russo CEO of Alfalyrae Nautical integrated services .
I have just applied to this forum expressly to give all of you informations about new Boat Tax in Italy WHICH DOES NOT APPLY ANYMORE FOR FOREIGNERS.
To read all the details we invite you all to read our March Newsletter at
http://www.alfalyrae.com/nautica/ima...tter_2_ing.pdf
I hope this is a good new and please feel free to contact our Technical operating centre for any further information at
centraletecnica@alfalyrae.com
Fair Winds to all of you
Giovannella Russo
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14-03-2012, 04:09
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Marine Service Provider
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Naples
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Re: Italian Boat Tax
Dear all
TAX BOAT DOES NOT ANYMORE APPLY TO FOREIGNERS
For more info have a look to Alfalyrae's March Newsletter at http://www.alfalyrae.com/nautica/ima...tter_2_ing.pdf
Fair winds to all!
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18-03-2012, 01:45
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Re: Italian Boat Tax
Quote:
Originally Posted by beneteau-500
Italian tax cancelled (berthing tax ) on all foreign yachts the tax will now only apply to Italians and it doesnt matter weather they have a Italian flagged vessel or not
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It also applies to non Italian citizens who have their residency in Italy, however not to those who have their residency outside Italy
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18-03-2012, 03:56
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Marine Service Provider
Join Date: Mar 2012
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Thanks For your additional explication Joe. For us the important was just to explain that the changing was "Saving" all foreign citizens . It was For us consequent that the tax regarded " being italian which envolves also being resident in Italy" because we are talking now of a possession tax and if you have a possession in wherever nation all over the world you have to Pay possession tax because you use Services supplied from that nation to the Asset you have there.
Any way it you want to read the all news just click on March newsletter on our website www.alfalyrae.com
Fair Winds to all!
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