Cruisers Forum
 


Join CruisersForum Today

Reply
 
Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
Old 30-04-2013, 05:32   #226
Registered User

Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 959
Re: How To Not Look Like A Gringo.

Quote:
Originally Posted by ty.gregory View Post
Sorry, I've read this three times now, and still don't get it. Disregarding the Native Americans, everything was brought to the US by early settlers. Of course, these days we call them, U.S. Citizens.

A "More modern European invention" is a lovely thought, one we all look forward to.
Dang, dude. Your comments give me hope for the Barbarians.

(I'm from your more conservative cousin to the north, SLO)
__________________

__________________
Richard5 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 30-04-2013, 05:51   #227
Moderator Emeritus
 
GordMay's Avatar

Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Thunder Bay, Ontario - 48-29N x 89-20W
Boat: (Cruiser Living On Dirt)
Posts: 31,577
Images: 240
Re: How To Not Look Like A Gringo.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Richard5 View Post
Easy peasy. It was Morocco. Look to the history of the Barbary pirates for the rest.
On November 16, 1776, the cannons at Fort Oranje in Sint Eustatius (Netherlands Antilles) fired the first official salute, by a foreign nation, to the American colours (flown by the USS "Andria Doria").
At the time, Americans interpreted this official salute, by the Dutch, to their brand new flag, as the first de facto recognition of their independence.
__________________

__________________
Gord May
"If you didn't have the time or money to do it right in the first place, when will you get the time/$ to fix it?"



GordMay is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 30-04-2013, 05:55   #228
cruiser

Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 59
Re: How To Not Look Like A Gringo.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Richard5 View Post
Easy peasy. It was Morocco. Look to the history of the Barbary pirates for the rest.

Prior to Morocco, the Nation-State of Dubrovnik officially recognized the United States in 1776, and was the first to send merchant marine vessels into New York Harbour. Therefore it was the first nation that recognized USA!
__________________
transformer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 30-04-2013, 06:10   #229
Armchair Bucketeer
 
David_Old_Jersey's Avatar

Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 10,013
Images: 4
Re: How To Not Look Like A Gringo.

Quote:
Originally Posted by ty.gregory View Post
Now just hold on one damn minute there, Mister Lord Fauntleroy! I may pick my nose and I may eat my boogers, but I eat my boogers with a knife and fork while seated at a table. I cut my boogers into a few small slices, set my knife down gently on the plate, and then transfer my fork from my left hand to my right. Do you take the time to do that? No, I doubt very much you do. And I chew with my mouth closed, thank you very much. And yes, before you ask, I wash my hands before I pick my nose!

I got yer "No Class" right eeeeerrr.
So I guess that is where US fast "food" originated from .

On the topic of cutlery - may I give an honorable mention to the spoon!, not only is it the finest implement developed for eating soup it is also the international symbol of Atheism ........as adopted at the first Council of Atheism in the year Zero (1 week before the birth of Cheeses) and since encoded within the Protocols of the Elders of Atheism as followed by the World Atheist Council. Sources will be on the internet in due course .
David_Old_Jersey is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 30-04-2013, 06:19   #230
Moderator
 
carstenb's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: May 2012
Location: Copenhagen
Boat: Jeanneau Sun Fast 40.3
Posts: 4,936
Images: 1
Re: How To Not Look Like A Gringo.

Us State Department, office of the Historian, notes that France was the first
__________________
I spent most of my money on Booze, Broads and Boats. The rest I wasted - Elmore Leonard
carstenb is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 30-04-2013, 06:27   #231
Registered User
 
Blue Crab's Avatar

Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Hurricane Highway
Boat: Cal 29
Posts: 3,882
pirate Re: How To Not Look Like A Gringo.

Quote:
Originally Posted by David_Old_Jersey View Post
On the topic of cutlery - may I give an honorable mention to the spoon!, not only is it the finest implement developed for eating soup it is also the international symbol of Atheism ........as adopted at the first Council of Atheism in the year Zero (1 week before the birth of Cheeses) and since encoded within the Protocols of the Elders of Atheism as followed by the World Atheist Council. Sources will be on the internet in due course .
With all the "holly cows" on another continent, DOJ is obviously referring to the birth of goat cheeses. David and a goat reference: Coincidence? I think not.

Lest it be overlooked, I think it's likely that AMERICANS invented the spork.
__________________
Blue Crab is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 30-04-2013, 08:29   #232
Moderator Emeritus
 
GordMay's Avatar

Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Thunder Bay, Ontario - 48-29N x 89-20W
Boat: (Cruiser Living On Dirt)
Posts: 31,577
Images: 240
Re: How To Not Look Like A Gringo.

Quote:
Originally Posted by carstenb View Post
Us State Department, office of the Historian, notes that France was the first
Indeed.

... The Declaration’s most important diplomatic effect was to allow for recognition of the United States by friendly foreign governments. The Sultan of Morocco mentioned American ships in a consular document in 1777, but Congress had to wait until the 1778 Treaty of Alliance with France for a formal recognition of U.S. independence. The Netherlands acknowledged U.S. independence in 1782. Although Spain joined the war against Great Britain in 1779, it did not recognize U.S. independence until the 1783 Treaty of Paris. Under the terms of the treaty, which ended the War of the American Revolution, Great Britain officially acknowledged the United States as a sovereign and independent nation ...”

Office of the Historian - Milestones - 1776-1783 - The Declaration of Independence
__________________
Gord May
"If you didn't have the time or money to do it right in the first place, when will you get the time/$ to fix it?"



GordMay is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 30-04-2013, 13:28   #233
Moderator
 
carstenb's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: May 2012
Location: Copenhagen
Boat: Jeanneau Sun Fast 40.3
Posts: 4,936
Images: 1
Re: How To Not Look Like A Gringo.

Having noted this, we should be aware that many other sources beg to differ. Indeed, Hilary Clinton, in a speech in Morocco, noted that Morocco had recognized the US first (considering she was Sec of State, you'd think she got her facts from the office of the historian).

Wiki - the all knowledgeable lists Morocco, Netherlands and Dubrovnik (it was know under a different name back then) as first. It all depends on what you consider "recognize" to be







Quote:
Originally Posted by GordMay View Post
Indeed.

... The Declaration’s most important diplomatic effect was to allow for recognition of the United States by friendly foreign governments. The Sultan of Morocco mentioned American ships in a consular document in 1777, but Congress had to wait until the 1778 Treaty of Alliance with France for a formal recognition of U.S. independence. The Netherlands acknowledged U.S. independence in 1782. Although Spain joined the war against Great Britain in 1779, it did not recognize U.S. independence until the 1783 Treaty of Paris. Under the terms of the treaty, which ended the War of the American Revolution, Great Britain officially acknowledged the United States as a sovereign and independent nation ...”

Office of the Historian - Milestones - 1776-1783 - The Declaration of Independence
__________________
I spent most of my money on Booze, Broads and Boats. The rest I wasted - Elmore Leonard
carstenb is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 30-04-2013, 13:31   #234
Moderator
 
carstenb's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: May 2012
Location: Copenhagen
Boat: Jeanneau Sun Fast 40.3
Posts: 4,936
Images: 1
Re: How To Not Look Like A Gringo.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Richard5 View Post
Dang, dude. Your comments give me hope for the Barbarians.

(I'm from your more conservative cousin to the north, SLO)
Richard, the story about switching the fork to the other hand I've heard (I am a repository of utterly useless information - just ask my wife or daugthers), is that when you switched the fork to your right hand, you have put down your knife and are now signalling your peaceful intentions. No knife - you can't stab the host

Or hostess, if teh food is lousy
__________________
I spent most of my money on Booze, Broads and Boats. The rest I wasted - Elmore Leonard
carstenb is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 30-04-2013, 20:09   #235
Registered User
 
Blue Crab's Avatar

Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Hurricane Highway
Boat: Cal 29
Posts: 3,882
pirate Re: How To Not Look Like A Gringo.

Quote:
Originally Posted by carstenb View Post
Richard, the story about switching the fork to the other hand I've heard (I am a repository of utterly useless information - just ask my wife or daugthers), is that when you switched the fork to your right hand, you have put down your knife and are now signalling your peaceful intentions. No knife - you can't stab the host

Or hostess, if teh food is lousy
Not in my orphanage, Sir. You ne' drop the knife Captain. Yer may need it to pin a roaming hand square to the table. It's a hardknock life.
__________________

__________________
Blue Crab is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off




Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -7. The time now is 19:30.


Google+
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Social Knowledge Networks
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.

ShowCase vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.