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Old 25-01-2018, 12:44   #16
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Re: Vestas collides with fishing vessel near Hong Kong

No high speed running after sunset while racing? Lol!

Radar works.
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Old 25-01-2018, 13:12   #17
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Re: Vestas collides with fishing vessel near Hong Kong

I think having safer routes - regarding ports - might be the a reasonable option. Regarding reefs and Ships I wonder if remote monitoring would be good to inform the crew about the collision course.
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Also could consider some better signaling if close to shore... Disco lights ?
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Old 25-01-2018, 23:01   #19
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That right there is the exact attitude that is the root cause of the problem.




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Radar works.
Radar is not infallible, not everything you encounter on the seas gives a decent return, if the water isn’t dead calm, the spurious returns from waves can hide valid targets etc.... yes, use radar whenever it’s available, but don’t rely solely on it....
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No high speed running after sunset while racing? Lol!

Radar works.
Really?

Didn't work for Greenings... they didn't even see Africa on radar ...

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Old 26-01-2018, 01:15   #21
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Re: Vestas collides with fishing vessel near Hong Kong

So what's the difference in Vestas' crew and this boats crew Powerboat Smashes Fishermen ?
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Old 26-01-2018, 01:18   #22
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Re: Vestas collides with fishing vessel near Hong Kong

A key question is whether the fishing boat was transmitting AIS.?
...many do not to protect their fishing spots, but if they were showing AIS and got hit while fishing, the HK Marine department will come down like a ton of bricks on the sailboat
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Radar is not infallible, not everything you encounter on the seas gives a decent return, if the water isn’t dead calm, the spurious returns from waves can hide valid targets etc.... yes, use radar whenever it’s available, but don’t rely solely on it....
A fishing boat with a 10 man crew gives a very good return
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I'm with you. The finish line could have been moved after all it was a 5800 mile leg. A gps location 40 miles out. Sailing into Hong Kong at night isn't easy at 6 kn let alone 23 kn.
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Radar is likely not gimbaled and I would think it would be tough to pick up a small boat (no one mentioned wave height in 23 knots of wind). AIS anyone?
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note the high boat heel, and level radar If you zoom in on a higher rez version of the photo you can see the mount details.
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