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Old 05-01-2018, 16:33   #61
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Valid points and therein lies the delima and the dangerous mindset.


I don’t consider it a dangerous mindset, I consider it an acceptance of reality. I have made my peace with the reality of short handed to single handed voyaging. You obviously have very different levels of what you consider acceptable.

I am comfortable with my odds in the expanse of the ocean of not hitting an awash object.

You are comfortable with your odds as well, however what is required for your level of comfort doesn’t physically fit in my boat.

Therefore what I consider acceptable you consider dangerous. What you consider acceptable I consider staffing levels on par with a commercial enterprise.
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How many have avoided hitting something at night because you saw it on radar?

I have a 2006 Raymarine E80 radar. After hating it for two years, I've learned how to get it to perform pretty well, in that it will show "stuff".
Now how much it picks up all depends on the sea state.
It takes careful adjustment of both the gain and sea state values.
I also adjust it so it does best in the short range, meaning minimal false alarms, but it will see anything within 1/4 mile.

At night, i also always set the alarm. I do a 15° to 20°, 3000 ft to 2800 ft.
Alarm 2 is a 330° almost circle around boat, from 1500 to 1200 feet. Any closer and it produces false alarms.

The alarms only went off at night a few times from the Canaries to the Panama Canal.
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Valid points and therein lies the delima and the dangerous mindset.
To me the dangerous mindset is being aware of the miniscule chance of hitting something that will sink you but not being prepared for the event and how to deal with it.
Having a 'plan' however takes the stress levels down greatly as you will know what to do and have things set up to hand.. not stashed away under the V berth or buried beneath stuff in the cockpit locker..
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Acceptable or dangerous?
While i know we won't come to an agreement, I would point out that nothing is as obvious as it seems.
More eyes, more bodies certainly seems better, but does that data support that?
I think not.
Look at the data of boats lost versus number of crew.
More crew makes for more complacency.
It's not a simple formula.
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To me the dangerous mindset is being aware of the miniscule chance of hitting something that will sink you but not being prepared for the event and how to deal with it.
Having a 'plan' however takes the stress levels down greatly as you will know what to do and have things set up to hand.. not stashed away under the V berth or buried beneath stuff in the cockpit locker..
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To me the dangerous mindset is being aware of the miniscule chance of hitting something that will sink you but not being prepared for the event and how to deal with it.
Having a 'plan' however takes the stress levels down greatly as you will know what to do and have things set up to hand.. not stashed away under the V berth or buried beneath stuff in the cockpit locker..
Yep. Plans formulated while your boat is rapidly sinking are usually a lot less sound and effective than plans formulated the day before!
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Re: floatsam/semi submerged debris?

There are times when a good lookout can save your life.

http://gcaptain.com/watch-fishermen-...eid=0a4d88d4b5
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There are times when a good lookout can save your life.

http://gcaptain.com/watch-fishermen-...eid=0a4d88d4b5


Notice though that of the three people on board, none was the designated watchstander. However one was aware of his surroundings and noticed something was awry.
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To me the dangerous mindset is being aware of the miniscule chance of hitting something that will sink you but not being prepared for the event and how to deal with it.
Having a 'plan' however takes the stress levels down greatly as you will know what to do and have things set up to hand.. not stashed away under the V berth or buried beneath stuff in the cockpit locker..
yep bm61! better be prepared than hope for the 1: 1billion chance at avoidance!
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WATCH: Fishermen Dive Overboard Before Being Run Over by Speedboat – gCaptain
Wow what a video... from the flotsam's point of view... glad they all survived!
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Notice though that of the three people on board, none was the designated watchstander. However one was aware of his surroundings and noticed something was awry.
I think he was referring to a lookout posted on the offending boat!
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