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Old 18-12-2017, 14:42   #1
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Australian yacht sinks near Philippines

Three sailors lost their boat approaching Philippines.
Clinging to lifebouy for 5 days.
Unfortunately, one did not make it.
Australian dies as boat capsizes off Siargao in Australia-to-Subic sailing attempt | MindaNews
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Old 18-12-2017, 15:00   #2
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Re: Australian yacht sinks near Philippines

"Tidula said the Australians were sailing from Australia and heading towards Subic Bay aboard a yacht when it capsized due to a hole in the vesselís lower portion."

a hole? what caused it?
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Re: Australian yacht sinks near Philippines

This is a pretty remote area and they were probably trying to enter the pass south of Socorro Island, on the way to Hinatuan Pass...So don't expect any details for a while

Just 5 days ago, there was an irregular Tropical Storm that lingered around the east coast for a few days causing lots of flooding and big seas.

One other news report said the capsized, but who knows???

If 3 were clinging to a life bouy in those rough conditions, they probably swallowed a lot of seawater.

Kinda puts that $300 life raft thread into perspective.
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Re: Australian yacht sinks near Philippines

One comment in this article suggests they should have stayed on the yacht.

https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/wor...18-p4yxtv.html
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Re: Australian yacht sinks near Philippines

That's strange:

"The trio activated an emergency beacon on Thursday after being caught up in wild weather...the men, who had ditched the yacht for a small dinghy....., the yacht itself was almost intact when they were discovered..."

so, it was not capsized? and the hole did not sink it?

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Puts a lot more emphasis on the expression..
When abadoning a vessel... step up into the life raft.
Condolences to the family and may the others be grateful for their second chance.. a sad tale.
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Re: Australian yacht sinks near Philippines

If that photo is supposed to be the yacht AFTER the abandonment, there's something very strange going on here. Why on earth would experienced folk abandon a vessel in that condition? As described, these were experienced yotties... this just seems way out of whack to me.

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Re: Australian yacht sinks near Philippines

Given enough fatigue and fear even sensible people will do irrational things.
My condolences too to the families.
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If that photo is supposed to be the yacht AFTER the abandonment, there's something very strange going on here. Why on earth would experienced folk abandon a vessel in that condition? As described, these were experienced yotties... this just seems way out of whack to me.

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that pic is before as is nicely tied up and with the dinghy.

sure they have not exchanged boat for dinghy in wild seas for no reason. Apart from hitting reef, only way hole can be made to my knowledge in monohull is roll, then mast breaks or keel gets compromised.
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If that photo is supposed to be the yacht AFTER the abandonment, there's something very strange going on here. Why on earth would experienced folk abandon a vessel in that condition? As described, these were experienced yotties... this just seems way out of whack to me.

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That photo looks like it is from the used yacht ad.
If the right boat, before the incident no doubt.
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Re: Australian yacht sinks near Philippines

Well, the later report said that the yacht was nearly intact when recovered, so I'm still a bit unsure of what has transpired. Holed or not holed? Why abandoned?

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that pic is before as is nicely tied up and with the dinghy.

sure they have not exchanged boat for dinghy in wild seas for no reason. Apart from hitting reef, only way hole can be made to my knowledge in monohull is roll, then mast breaks or keel gets compromised.
Or a through-hull / sea-cock / inlet hose failing.
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Yeah, even the news reports state that the details are "sketchy".
Pelagic was right about the storm, "Urduja", AKA "Kai-tak". It just lingered back and forth, pummeling the poor guys for days.

Here's a very early guess at a timeline pieced together from contradicting news reports. (vary from 4-6 days floating at sea on a "life buoy")

Dec 10 (ish): SV Katerina left Davao after a refueling stop, then headed north up Mindanao's East Coast
Dec 12: Urduja is declared a tropical depression, 200 nm East of Mindanao's East coast, heading northwest
Dec 13: Urduja turns west, then southwest (collision course for SV Katerina?)
Dec 14: Urduja upgraded to tropical storm, 50 nm northeast of Siargao island, possibly exact position of SV Katerina
Dec 14: EPIRB signal received
Dec 14-15 Urduja does a weird little dance, reversing to the northeast, pummeling the same track twice (and most likely our boys)
Dec 17: Fisherman spot the men, rescued 50 miles from Siargao
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One comment in this article suggests they should have stayed on the yacht.

https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/wor...18-p4yxtv.html
More support to leave the life raft at home. Maybe even the ring buoy.

I guess if you need that false sense of security, go for it. I have confidence in the boats I have.
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Re: Australian yacht sinks near Philippines

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That photo looks like it is from the used yacht ad.
If the right boat, before the incident no doubt.
A Camper and Nicholson 58...

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Indeed the picture of that boat is of a C&N 58 ("Katerina"), sold in Newcastle NSW, early April 2016. One of the previous names was "Assignment", when owned by Walter Cronkite. Very nice solid boat, very little or nothing wrong with that boat when I was on it.

My thoughts are with the sailors and their families.
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