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Old 31-08-2014, 09:07   #1
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Talking 33' Morgan Out Island (warrior)

Man Oh man…. I don’t want to do this, as financial maturity is not one of my strong character traits… That being said, I REALLY should sell my Morgan Out Island, as I use her very rarely any more… I thought I would throw her out here on CF and see if there was anybody interested before listing her…

She’s an island warrior in Southern California, home port being Marina del Rey … Stout as a tank, and easily handles anything thrown at her, but just as happy taking non sailors on the reach to Malibu, and BBQ on the run home… A perfect daysail in Santa Monica Bay…

For those looking who aren’t familiar with the design, a broker’s quote sums it up:

Possibly the largest 33' sailboat you will ever see, the Morgan is a great boat to live aboard and "go some where". Built like a tank, the full keel with protected rudder is a great choice for cruising grounds.

These boats are an incredibly thick layup, heavy, have a fantastic sea motion and reduced heel. With 3’11” draft and a fully encapsulated keel, grounding and keel anxiety are non issues…

I think she’s worth $25k+ all day long… But I also think I’m handsome… Sooo… Offers around the $20k mark are highly encouraged…


Details and more pics to follow...
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Old 31-08-2014, 09:16   #2
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Re: 33' Morgan Out Island (warrior)

BOAT DETAILS:
Dimensions
Year: 1976
LOA: 33 ft 0 in
Beam: 11 ft 10 in
LWL: 27 ft 6 in
Minimum Draft: 3 ft 11 in
Displacement: 14500 lbs
Ballast: 5000 lbs
Air Draft 45ft
Saloon Headroom 6’+ ft


Engine
50 HP Perkins 4-108, runs like a top, no smoke, starts first crank, uses no oil… Cruises 6.5kts @ 2k, 7.5 kts @ 2500, 3/4g/hr – Cockpit gauges, helm controls

Tankage
water tank">Fresh Water Tank: (110 Gallons), Newer HDPE
Holding tank: 25g New-unused HDPE (disconnected, but plumbed with a Y-valve)
Fuel Tanks: (40 Gallons) SS tank, recently removed and steamed, in perfect shape

Electrical
House bank 420 Ah 4x105-12v
Separate start battery
1-2-both-off battery selector switch
110 volt shorepower, 30A + dock cord
AC and DC service panels
3 bank 40A multi phase battery charger
2 bilge pumps

Electronics
Raymarine C70 MFD, cockpit mounted
Raystar 125 GPS Antenna
2Kw Radar Dome
DSC VHF

Sails & Rigging
5/16” Oversized 1x19 wire
Outboard hull mounted chain plates (easy access)
Main w/cover
150% Furling Genoa
120% Hank on Genoa
Keel stepped mast, newer LPU mast paint, 3 halyards, topping lift, vang
Mast mounted radar reflector
Winches, 2 coaming primaries, mainsheet, furler, mast halyard


Accommodations
Large owner's cabin forward w/spacious AND COMFY V-berth (double cushioned)
Hanging lockers & drawers
Extra wide quarter berth aft + hanging locker
7 foot starboard settee
Port side table converts to double
Enclosed head w/sink and shower
Nice U shaped galley w/large stainless steel sink, new sink fixtures
New freshwater pump, seawater hand pump at galley sink
Large saloon w dinette to port
2 burner alcohol stove, also plumbed for LP with lines, solenoid, indicating switch
Microwave
Top loading fridge/freezer
All interior upholstery recently done, and looks like new
Cabin lighting replaced with wall sconces in saloon
Red/white lighting near companionway

Cockpit
Huge cockpit for a 33 ft boat
Newer cockpit cushions
Helm steering, Hynautics hydraulic
Binnacle compass
Manual bilge pump
Dodger with separate extra long side windows
Line bags, winch covers, handrail covers
Helm seat
Anchor/mooring Bimini
2 cavernous lazarettes
Port lazarette leads to workspace with shelves, lighting, back of electrical panel
Rail LP grill

Deck
Deck mounted storage/liferaft box (I use it for fenders)
Pole saddles
Grab rails
Manual windlass, canvas cover
35 lb CQR plough w/150 ft 5/16” chain, + 200 ft spooled 5/8” rode

Additional Equipment
Danforth anchor w/100 ft rode
Emergency tiller
Raft style dingy
TONS of spares

I’m sure there are plenty things I am forgetting, but these are the basics… No major or minor issues… Just the silly little boat things that always seem to appear…
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Old 31-08-2014, 09:25   #3
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My children were raised aboard from infancy to 7 & 9 during the 13 years we lived aboard a sistership to this beauty. You don't often see boats of this vintage so well cared for. Somebody's going to please pleased with this!
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My children were raised aboard from infancy to 7 & 9 during the 13 years we lived aboard a sistership to this beauty. You don't often see boats of this vintage so well cared for. Somebody's going to please pleased with this!
Thanks Capn' ! "D

I have a spot for her in my heart, and like all boats... Never perfect! But I try to keep her in the condition she deserves... As she's taken me many thousands of miles without a complaint, and shown me the beauty of the sea... sunset after sunset...
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Couple pics wouldn't fit in the previous posts

HEAD?

Who wants to look at crappy head pictures... (yes intended)
So I included one of the lighting sconce and pinup decor... We have warring factions of decor on the boat... Polynesian Tiki vs Pirate vs Pinup...

I have plenty of other pics should any one want to see something from a different angle...
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Double man oh man. What a beaut! If you didn't have her on the wrong coast, I'd be all over that.

I came on here tonight to study up on that wire-rope furler arrangement you'd written about, and glad to finally see a pic that shows it. Still don't see how it "anchors" to the deck.

I agree with what HF said...someone's gonna get a great boat.
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Double man oh man. What a beaut! If you didn't have her on the wrong coast, I'd be all over that.

I came on here tonight to study up on that wire-rope furler arrangement you'd written about, and glad to finally see a pic that shows it. Still don't see how it "anchors" to the deck.

I agree with what HF said...someone's gonna get a great boat.
Thanks Flem-shi-doobie...

Just for you... I would try and talk shewhomakestherules into a delivery trip... I think we'd have a comfortable margin with a six month trip don't you???

The furler is like most any other with the exception that it has no rigid foil... Bottom to top:

Deck-swivel-drum-tack/shackle-wire-top swivel-halyard shackle

I'll find some (net) pics, or if not, draw ya somethin' (that should be entertaining)
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The furler is like most any other with the exception that it has no rigid foil... Bottom to top:

Deck-swivel-drum-tack/shackle-wire-top swivel-halyard shackle ..................
Many don't like this Schaeffer rig furling system because they point out that the looser leading edge lacks as much windward performance, but what they don't consider is that you have the headstay still available to hank on a second jib,- some of the same advantages as a solent rig and, most important to me in the thunderstorm and tropical storm areas, I can drop it to the deck in seconds and have none of that big windage of the furled sail on the bow at anchor in a hurricane hole.
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I had the exact same roller furler for several years, and its exactly as described. The only disadvantage is that the luff is difficult to get really tight, but it did not affect performance enough to make me want to change. Advantage is that it is fairly easy to remove and stow below, and the headstay is still available for hank on jibs - think wing on wing.
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Thanks Flem-shi-doobie...

Just for you... I would try and talk shewhomakestherules into a delivery trip... I think we'd have a comfortable margin with a six month trip don't you???

The furler is like most any other with the exception that it has no rigid foil... Bottom to top:

Deck-swivel-drum-tack/shackle-wire-top swivel-halyard shackle

I'll find some (net) pics, or if not, draw ya somethin' (that should be entertaining)
Actually, I did go back to this discussion we had previously. Attached pix weren't showing up, but the last one eventually did...it being a diagram of your type of furler. The mechanical hang-up I have is what keeps the drum from rubbing on the forestay? There's got to be a second hooking point, spaced to accommodate the drum, no?

Maybe I'm just over-analyzing.

Unlike some people, I can't be a two-boat guy. We'll have to work out a trade. So, that means two 6-month deliveries. (Insert nyuk-nyuk-nyuk emoticon here)
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Many don't like this Schaeffer rig furling system because they point out that the looser leading edge lacks as much windward performance, but what they don't consider is that you have the headstay still available to hank on a second jib,- some of the same advantages as a solent rig and, most important to me in the thunderstorm and tropical storm areas, I can drop it to the deck in seconds and have none of that big windage of the furled sail on the bow at anchor in a hurricane hole.
Hudson...

I find it a brilliant piece of kit (remind me to stay of international forums before I start picking up strange phrases) (edit: I think I can blame this phrase on Ann... sounds like her...) Exactly as you say, furled up big genny, and hank on whatever you want... Drops in a second, and you end up with a furled sausage on the deck...

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I had the exact same roller furler for several years, and its exactly as described. The only disadvantage is that the luff is difficult to get really tight, but it did not affect performance enough to make me want to change. Advantage is that it is fairly easy to remove and stow below, and the headstay is still available for hank on jibs - think wing on wing.
I do believe that there is a small decrease to windward, but as in your experience, not enough to disregard the other advantages... My rig on this boat is super stiff, and I can get that luff tighter than most... And a flatter cut genny... In all honesty, I don't find the windward performance reputation of this particular boat near as bad as it's made out to be... 35ish... Many factors add up in small increments, but the end boom sheeting being the the biggest culprit...

I love the little kid in us... It's way too much fun winging two headsails!
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Actually, I did go back to this discussion we had previously. Attached pix weren't showing up, but the last one eventually did...it being a diagram of your type of furler. The mechanical hang-up I have is what keeps the drum from rubbing on the forestay? There's got to be a second hooking point, spaced to accommodate the drum, no?

Maybe I'm just over-analyzing.

Unlike some people, I can't be a two-boat guy. We'll have to work out a trade. So, that means two 6-month deliveries. (Insert nyuk-nyuk-nyuk emoticon here)
What You??? Over Analyze???

I missed the whole focus on:

Still don't see how it "anchors" to the deck.

Could you possibly be more specific next time???

I went through all my pics, and stupid me I don't seem to have any of the furling gear or bow fittings... If you look at the pic of the anchor/bow gear, you can see the drum having a few inches clearance from the forestay... The bow roller/stemhead fitting incorporates two anchor points ...

You'll either have to add a padeye tied to the stem below, or make up/find something the fits with provisions for a roller/stem fitting/drum anchor...

Take a pic of your pointy end, and I'll try and help ya!
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I should have mentioned one other problem with this "free standing" roller furler, and that is the deck pad eye to which it is attached.
The upward pressure on the rig, which is mostly caused by trying to get the halyard tight to reduce luff sag, but also to some extent by pressure on the sail while underway, exerts an upward force on the deck pad eye which puts a strain on the hull/deck joint in the bow area. Although my pad eye had a good backing plate on it under the deck, I began noticing hull/deck separation. I was able to correct that problem by adding an underdeck connection to an internal bow eye I installed just for that purpose. Not difficult or expensive to do but something to be aware of.
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What You??? Over Analyze???

I missed the whole focus on:

Still don't see how it "anchors" to the deck.

Could you possibly be more specific next time???

I went through all my pics, and stupid me I don't seem to have any of the furling gear or bow fittings... If you look at the pic of the anchor/bow gear, you can see the drum having a few inches clearance from the forestay... The bow roller/stemhead fitting incorporates two anchor points ...

You'll either have to add a padeye tied to the stem below, or make up/find something the fits with provisions for a roller/stem fitting/drum anchor...

Take a pic of your pointy end, and I'll try and help ya!
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I should have mentioned one other problem with this "free standing" roller furler, and that is the deck pad eye to which it is attached.
The upward pressure on the rig, which is mostly caused by trying to get the halyard tight to reduce luff sag, but also to some extent by pressure on the sail while underway, exerts an upward force on the deck pad eye which puts a strain on the hull/deck joint in the bow area. Although my pad eye had a good backing plate on it under the deck, I began noticing hull/deck separation. I was able to correct that problem by adding an underdeck connection to an internal bow eye I installed just for that purpose. Not difficult or expensive to do but something to be aware of.
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