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Old 10-01-2017, 23:06   #1
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1983 c and c 38 landfall

Picked this up at auction in jax,fl. Transients had lived aboard the past couple years. Boat needs engine work, batteries,and a good cleaning. Hard to tell whats working or not but she is floating without a running bilge and that counts for something.Click image for larger version

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Old 11-01-2017, 03:37   #2
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Re: 1983 c and c 38 landfall

Greetings and welcome aboard the CF, Doc.
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I am interested, anyway you could give more info?
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I am interested, anyway you could give more info?
What specifically would you like to know? I'll do my best to answer but i admittedly have limited knowledge of the vessel. I am able to board it and get some info as needed.
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Re: 1983 c and c 38 landfall

Mainly what is wrong with the engine and how long it has been since it has run.

If someone was to purchase it they would need to move it.
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Re: 1983 c and c 38 landfall

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What specifically would you like to know? I'll do my best to answer but i admittedly have limited knowledge of the vessel. I am able to board it and get some info as needed.
You're going to have a hard time unloading her if you can't provide any level of detail beyond what you've given. Yes your asking price is attractively low for that boat, but whether it is a good value or not is entirely a function of condition. If the boat needs a new engine, for example, that just by itself makes your asking price potentially steep. And having been generally ignored and abused the engine is likely just the tip of the iceberg.

TL;DR: The more detailed information, and pictures you provide the better chance you have of attracting a serious buyer.
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Re: 1983 c and c 38 landfall

Engine hasn't been run in a year. I actually had colleagues who knew the owner. The guy bought the boat about three years ago and sailed the boat down from new England. Even when he used the engine, reportedly he would have some issues. Guy was not a professional sailor and likely didnt have the funds to service the yanmar since he didn't have the funds to pay his slip fees that past year, hence him defaulting on his loan and the b subsequent auction. I've had a number of experienced sailors take a look at it and the price reflects what they see in terms of overt value.
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You're going to have a hard time unloading her if you can't provide any level of detail beyond what you've given. Yes your asking price is attractively low for that boat, but whether it is a good value or not is entirely a function of condition. If the boat needs a new engine, for example, that just by itself makes your asking price potentially steep. And having been generally ignored and abused the engine is likely just the tip of the iceberg.

TL;DR: The more detailed information, and pictures you provide the better chance you have of attracting a serious buyer.
Such is life. I don't imagine this boat to be a good fit for the investor flipper. More so the buyer that wants to get in low and have the room to make it their own. If the engine was running fine it wouldnt evidence much in terms of future potential surprises, just an increase in price by 8k. Price is an introduction for negotiation. I have more pictures for those interested.
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Re: 1983 c and c 38 landfall

more pictures would be useful, as well as the make and model of the engine as I have a partly re-built yanmar 3 gm which could fit, condition of sails etc, actual location
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Such is life. I don't imagine this boat to be a good fit for the investor flipper. More so the buyer that wants to get in low and have the room to make it their own. If the engine was running fine it wouldnt evidence much in terms of future potential surprises, just an increase in price by 8k. Price is an introduction for negotiation. I have more pictures for those interested.
For 6K, anything that actually works is a bonus. Its hard to knock a price down for things that don't work when you start at 6k. Still, hull should be surveyed, and I would assume new rig is needed. Unless intent is to use the boat for air bnb.
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Surprisingly rigging looks fine
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Picked this up at auction in jax,fl. Transients had lived aboard the past couple years. Boat needs engine work, batteries,and a good cleaning. Hard to tell whats working or not but she is floating without a running bilge and that counts for something.Attachment 139401 Just looking to flip it to someone that would like to make it their own. $6000 as is obo.
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Surprisingly rigging looks fine
Rod rigging will often look fine, until it's not (breaks while under load). If it's still original it's due for replacement, especially given the hotter / more humid conditions in Florida.

Great pictures you posted. Looks like most equipment is original, except for the dodger/bimini frame and the main sail pack / lazy jacks.

The engine looks like it has a lot of hose chafe and belt dust that hasn't been cleaned up. But the exhaust U elbow and dry elbow look newish - so at least some work has been done on it. Seacocks and scupper hoses need work.

FYI the transmission looks like it is in gear. That may be intentional, but if you forget to switch it to neutral it will make it more difficult to start the engine.

For someone looking for a project boat it might not be a bad deal.
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I didnt see a prop shaft. I see a tranny and coupling but no shaft. That might explain any the bilge is dry.
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