Leopard 46: Leopard 46 vs Lagoon 450 ?

[Starblossom]

Any opinions which cat is better?
They both seem to certain features that are superior to each other.
Any problems with either one?
Anyone know the best discount from list price on these cats?
Appreciate any suggestions

Thanks

[yeloya]

No idea on Leopard. We have one 450 in our fleet and have sailed her a bit. 450 is a "love or hate"; outstanding comfort and space. Sailing is not best because of very high beam and strange location of the winches. She's not fast enough either.
For coastal, daily sailing with family in a relax environment, she's great. Otherwise, I would consider other options.
Again no clue on Leopard, but for Lagoon 8-12% discount on price list is very common practice..

Yeloya

[xxuxx]

A topic near and dear to my heart. Did you know that a Leopard 46 came in third in the Caribe 1500 rally out of 80 boats? (This is from Hampton, VA to Tortola, BVI)
The Leopard 46 is fast and has creature comforts; it also is designed by Morelli and Melvin who are the state of the art cat designers. The are the designers of the "Gunboats".
The Lagoon is heavier and perhaps more durable but it is slower; however, it has more places to hide and play. ie. a raised fly bridge and a front seat near the tramps. They both use Yanmars which is a plus and have sail drives.
If you want more speed go with the Leopard but if you want are more interested in the destination rather than the passage, then go with the Lagoon as it is more liveable with more places to hide and play. IMHO