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Old 30-12-2012, 18:35   #46
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Re: Any Leopard 44 Owners Out There ...

Originally Posted by Sand crab View Post
Man, that is really low bridgedeck clearance on the L44. I tried to lift the pic from Leopard's website to post it here but ran into technical issues. Maybe some of you tekkies can figure it out. Look at their pics page and you'll see the one.
Trying to judge from a pic can be deceptive.
See http://northernmultihulls.files.word...ifications.pdf

2'-6" lightship and 2'-1" full load, and note that "full load" is about twice the load capacity of most boats in its class.

Those dimensions are about the same as I measured in Ft Lauderdale last week.

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Old 31-12-2012, 12:24   #47
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Re: Any Leopard 44 Owners Out There ...

I posted comments on this thread about the L44's bridgedeck clearance after the 2012 boat show">Miami Boat Show. Although I did not have a measuring tape handy, I was convinced that the L44's bridgedeck clearance was very close to that of the Lagoon 400 and 421 which were docked just a few feet away. However, I did think the Lagoons had slightly more clearance (especially at the stern). I became even more interested in this issue after recently crewing on a delivery from Norfolk to the USVI. We were sailing a monohull but I and the other crew members had a lively discussion about catamarans as bluewater boats. The problem of wave slapping and slamming was given as a major downside for catamarans and therefore a discussion of "minimum" bridgedeck clearance came up. Someone threw out 30" as a minimum and it seemed to eventually gain a consensus. I have no real idea what a good minimum would be as rum was involved in our debate.

Over the next two weeks I took a tape measure, and with permission, measured the bridgedeck clearance on 4 catamarans. Each was measured forward and aft.

1) 2004 Lagoon 380: Forward - 26" Aft - 22" This boat was privately owned and very heavily loaded in general and had an aftermarket (very heavily constructed) bimini frame, arch and davits. It also had a dinghy with 15HP outboard hanging from the davits.

2) 2011 Lagoon 421: Forward - 28" Aft - 25" Another privately owned, heavily loaded boat. The dinghy was hanging from the davits with a 9.5HP outboard. I was told the boat had a generator, AC and even a scuba compressor onboard.

3) 2010 or 2011 Lagoon 400: Forward - 27" Aft - 26" A Charter boat, not heavily loaded. No dinghy in the davits.

4) 2011 (may be considered a 2012 model) Leopard 444 Forward - 28" Aft -26" A charter boat, not heavily loaded. No dinghy in the davits.

The 380 and 421 were carrying much more equipment and toys of every kind than the other two boats. I think the 380 was submerged an inch or two below it's intended waterline. The stern scoops were awash at least an inch.

My biggest surprise was that the Leopard 444 had esentially the same clearance both forward and aft as the Lagoon 400. Both would probably be considered at half load. The boats were in different marinas so there was no way to visually compare their bridgedeck clearances. To the eye, the Lagoon 400 "looked" to have at least 2-4 inches more clearance than the Leopard, but that was not the case. I am speculating on the loads each was carrying. I looked around each boat, but didn't do a close inspection.

The bridgedeck clearance I measured for the Leopard is very close to the specs R&C publishes. To the eye the Leopard looked much closer to the water the more aft one moved, but the tape measure told a different story - only 2" difference. I would have expected 4" -6" difference just eyeballing it. Just as I had done at the boat show, when I simply looked between the hulls, under the bridgedeck forward looking aft, there appeared to be plenty of bridgedeck height. But when looking at the stern of the Leopard it still looked much, much lower than the bow. Some type of optical illusion I guess. In general it seems the M&M designed Leopards have bridgedeck clearance comparable to most other production cats, certainly the Lagoons. I do think the previous Simonis designs had significantly lower bridgedeck clearance.

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