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Old 06-08-2014, 02:19   #1
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Nautor Swan 38

This is the first Swan 38 that Nautor built. With her typical S&S lines she is a real stunner. She sails like nothing else too. She still is in immaculate condition and looking for a new owner.

Check outthe DIY Yacht Broker link below for pictures and specifications.

Nautor Swan 38 Swan 38 - Do-it-yourself Yacht Broker
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Old 06-08-2014, 03:35   #2
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Re: Nautor Swan 38

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This is the first Swan 38 that Nautor built. With her typical S&S lines she is a real stunner. She sails like nothing else too. She still is in immaculate condition and looking for a new owner.



Check outthe DIY Yacht Broker link below for pictures and specifications.



Nautor Swan 38 Swan 38 - Do-it-yourself Yacht Broker

The link doesn't seem to work for me, anyone else?
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Old 06-08-2014, 03:53   #3
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Re: Nautor Swan 38

Dead link. I Googled and did find this Swan 38 listed on the site. Not sure it is the same one though...Nautor Swan 38 Swan 38 - Do-it-yourself Yacht Broker
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Worked for me, nice looking yacht.
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Re: Nautor Swan 38

Worked for me too. Very nice.
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She sails like nothing else too.
Certainly my Baltic 38DP can give her a run for her money.

Lovely yacht, good luck with the sale.


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Re: Nautor Swan 38

I thought my boat was a swan, but with its long yellow tail it turned out to be an ugly duckling.


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Certainly my Baltic 38DP can give her a run for her money.

Lovely yacht, good luck with the sale.


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Number wise, yes...but it's still not a Swan.
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Number wise, yes...but it's still not a Swan.
If you know anything about Baltics and Swans you know that they are practically sisters. Baltic was started by Swan employees. Baltics were in a similar price range as Swans in the '70ies through to '90ies and built to the same standard.

Simply put, the Baltics are rarer, and have a sportier edge than Swans. But they are very much of the same ilk.

If you know production boats, and you like Swans of the past 40 years, you should like Baltics just the same. Unless you are a name snob.


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If you know anything about Baltics and Swans you know that they are practically sisters. Baltic was started by Swan employees. Baltics were in a similar price range as Swans in the '70ies through to '90ies and built to the same standard.

Simply put, the Baltics are rarer, and have a sportier edge than Swans. But they are very much of the same ilk.

If you know production boats, and you like Swans of the past 40 years, you should like Baltics just the same. Unless you are a name snob.


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Well since you are pushing the issue...I met someone in Mx who was complaining about there Baltic deck problems, where the shroads met the deck. Apparently springy decks. I have been on a few Swans and they are top notch quality. Name snob?...Not really. If you need to lable me, perhaps quality minded, which is why I own what I do in my price range.
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OK, it's clear now. You've made a call on all Baltics because you heard someone complain about 1. If you are really someone looking for quality I suggest you check them out with an open mind.

It is the first I've heard of such deck problems, and I've seen quite a few Baltics. I've never heard an owner complain about their build quality and I've met about 10 of them in the past 3 years, but I am also very aware of their history and they are highly regarded with cruiser racers in the 1980's and 1990's. That is just a fact, not my rose coloured glasses. Certainly my own boat (30 YO this year) does not have any squeaks, rattles, the teak interior is still beautiful and all the lockers work the way they are supposed to. She is quicker and points higher than modern 45 footers upwind (as my fellow participants of ARC Portugal 2014 will corroborate). The IOR design makes downwind a little slower and more susceptible to rolling (although Doug Peterson's design is much better than most IOR boats), but that is the same for Swans of that age.

All I can say is I will put my Baltic next to ANY Swan of similar age and I guarantee she won't come second.


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She looks lovely Ono, beautifully kept. I can see the peterson shape, similar to mine. Cheers
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Love them both... Grew up with a Swan47... Great old S&S design.. Anybody should be thrilled to sail with either... Right... <grin>


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OK, it's clear now. You've made a call on all Baltics because you heard someone complain about 1. If you are really someone looking for quality I suggest you check them out with an open mind.

It is the first I've heard of such deck problems, and I've seen quite a few Baltics. I've never heard an owner complain about their build quality and I've met about 10 of them in the past 3 years, but I am also very aware of their history and they are highly regarded with cruiser racers in the 1980's and 1990's. That is just a fact, not my rose coloured glasses.


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I thought I would just google the matter and on this link Baltic 42 DP - Sailing Anarchy - Sailing Anarchy Forums (half way down the page..."1st of all, the Baltic's are built very well and their quality is excellent. True classics. However, decks are the weak point with Baltic's. Best place to see the problems is where the shrouds meet the deck, woodwork gets black pretty fast and it that has happened there's problems. Old Baltic has a core in deck too, and if it gets wet"....
Ok so there's 2. No big deal a lot of these cored deck boats have problems, especially over-layed with teak.
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