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15-07-2013, 11:54
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Greg Kutsen
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Seabrook, TX
Boat: Ericson 38-200, 38 feet
Posts: 237
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Re: Mantus Anchors
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Originally Posted by scoobert
i am a videographer, i have made commercials, and been paid for my work.
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Well may be I should hire you, I might even be able to convert you
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15-07-2013, 11:59
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#77
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cruiser
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: medusa NY
Boat: Tayana Surprise 45 schooner "Union Pacific"
Posts: 2,097
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Re: Mantus Anchors
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Originally Posted by Mantus Anchors
Well may be I should hire you, I might even be able to convert you
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Unfortunately if you paid me it would invalidate the test.
Thou, yes, i could improve your video and it would come out far more real looking then the test you did. people today like long cuts, long cuts are more believable when you are selling a product.
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15-07-2013, 12:11
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#78
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Greg Kutsen
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Seabrook, TX
Boat: Ericson 38-200, 38 feet
Posts: 237
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Re: Mantus Anchors
Danforth/Fortress in my humble opinion are really good in really soft bottom, so good that they outperform per weight any other anchor......including ours, rocna, spade what have you...
The problem arises when you get firmer and firmer..... in the videos on galveston, the bottom is thick clay with sand, the bottom is so hard that you can't stick a finger into it... So Danforth fails in firm challenging bottoms... when penetrating power is important. CQR advantage is that its robust, heavy duty hard to damage anchor...
but unfortunately its setting ability is limited as is its blade surface area per weight....
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Originally Posted by scoobert
a video i would like to see is an anchor trip and reset.
set the anchor, drive over it, see how far it has to go to reset, if it does at all.
this is an issue for many. they set and anchor, it gets freed, then it does not reset. i would also like to see how your anchor compares to common anchors in too short scope situations. 2:1 3:1.
i would love to know if the danforth and QCR are that much worse then yours.
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15-07-2013, 12:12
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#79
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Greg Kutsen
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Seabrook, TX
Boat: Ericson 38-200, 38 feet
Posts: 237
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Re: Mantus Anchors
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15-07-2013, 12:20
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Greg Kutsen
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Seabrook, TX
Boat: Ericson 38-200, 38 feet
Posts: 237
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Re: Mantus Anchors
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15-07-2013, 12:23
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cruiser
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: medusa NY
Boat: Tayana Surprise 45 schooner "Union Pacific"
Posts: 2,097
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Re: Mantus Anchors
this is why amateurs should not do a product video...
scene 1: a mason is pulled from the waste by a bearded man
scene 2: same anchor is pulled from the chest by the same bearded man
scene 3: a mantus is set firmly into the ground. from what height???
scene 4: a ronca is pulled from chest height by the same bearded man
scene 6: the mantus is pulled by the man again, from.... the waist.
here are some free professional tips.
1. ditch the ugly guy. women are not in charge of buying the ground tackle.
2. continuity: there was none.
3. this is not how an anchor is used. a chain rode is standard on all but the dumbest peoples boats. the rode is typically the same lenght of the boat at least, and most of the time it is much much longer, even up to a full chain rode on most smart boaters boats.
now this video does make your anchor look a bit better. but i will guess there is a reason you did not use a danforth here.
your making me want to make a video.....
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15-07-2013, 12:26
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Greg Kutsen
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Seabrook, TX
Boat: Ericson 38-200, 38 feet
Posts: 237
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Re: Mantus Anchors
Quote:
Originally Posted by scoobert
this is why amateurs should not do a product video...
scene 1: a mason is pulled from the waste by a bearded man
scene 2: same anchor is pulled from the chest by the same bearded man
scene 3: a mantus is set firmly into the ground. from what height???
scene 4: a ronca is pulled from chest height by the same bearded man
scene 6: the mantus is pulled by the man again, from.... the waist.
here are some free professional tips.
1. ditch the ugly guy. women are not in charge of buying the ground tackle.
2. continuity: there was none.
3. this is not how an anchor is used. a chain rode is standard on all but the dumbest peoples boats. the rode is typically the same lenght of the boat at least, and most of the time it is much much longer, even up to a full chain rode on most smart boaters boats.
now this video does make your anchor look a bit better. but i will guess there is a reason you did not use a danforth here.
your making me want to make a video.....
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thanks on complement to my good looks
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15-07-2013, 12:28
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#83
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cruiser
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: medusa NY
Boat: Tayana Surprise 45 schooner "Union Pacific"
Posts: 2,097
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Re: Mantus Anchors
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Originally Posted by Mantus Anchors
thanks on complement to my good looks
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i have a beard myself, but i dont use my looks to sell my service, i use my truck :P
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16-07-2013, 20:54
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#84
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Greg Kutsen
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Seabrook, TX
Boat: Ericson 38-200, 38 feet
Posts: 237
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Re: Mantus Anchors
Ok Guys Last One! I know we released a bunch of stuff at once...
But we get this question a lot..... Can I use the anchor without the Roll Bar...
It would be a very rare event that the Mantus Flips...
We tossed it 50 times and 50 times it lands right.....
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16-07-2013, 21:47
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#85
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Usually South Florida these days
Posts: 952
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Re: Mantus Anchors
The videos above show good performance in the type of bottom that Galveston presents & they show it with a pretty steep scope angle, which I find to be a desirable property of that anchor. I'm impressed that even the little 2 pound anchor seemed to dig in well.
I'm not really sure that the other anchors got a fair comparison though. They were tested at scope angles that they were not designed for. I would feel that I had been given a much more useful set of information to work with if you would also do the same tests with a more traditional scope angle, like 7:1 & at least a few feet of chain.
If you were to race a Ferrari against a jeep on a sand dune, I would expect that the jeep would probably win. I would want to see those two also race on the tarmac before deciding which one I thought was faster.
That aside, if I were planning to spend a lot of time boating in the Galveston area, the Mantus certainly would be on the short list of anchors that I would want to choose from.
Would I choose it for other areas? I don't know. I don't have enough information yet. I would need to see how it works in other types of bottoms.
You do have me interested. I'll be watching. I have high hopes for this anchor, but my cautious nature keeps my optimism guarded for the moment.
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17-07-2013, 06:28
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#86
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Usually South Florida these days
Posts: 952
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Re: Mantus Anchors
I like the bolt together design. This will allow for the more compact storage of a large storm anchor.
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19-07-2013, 14:24
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#87
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cruiser
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: medusa NY
Boat: Tayana Surprise 45 schooner "Union Pacific"
Posts: 2,097
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Re: Mantus Anchors
lol the anchor i would want is $4,000
tell you what. it has $400 worth of stainless in it, a few bends, a few bolts, and a bit of cutting, give you $600 for it :P
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19-07-2013, 16:11
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#88
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Now limited to seasonal NE sailing
Boat: PT-11
Posts: 1,541
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Re: Mantus Anchors
I wonder how strong the bolts holding the shank to the flukes are.
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19-07-2013, 16:12
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#89
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cruiser
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: medusa NY
Boat: Tayana Surprise 45 schooner "Union Pacific"
Posts: 2,097
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Re: Mantus Anchors
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Originally Posted by SVNeko
I wonder how strong the bolts holding the shank to the flukes are.
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grade 8 i am sure.
AKA as strong at your chain rode.
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13-08-2020, 13:15
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#90
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 387
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Re: Mantus Anchors
I have used a 20kg Mantus on my 38ft catamaran for about three years now.
Great anchor. Holds well in everything, including weed/grass and coral rubble.
Very similar to the Rochna I had on a previous boat, but seems to dig in faster, like immediately.
Less expensive, too.
I recommend.
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