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Old 28-10-2017, 16:29   #16
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Re: Windlass Handset Connector

A hole saw cutting two openings, then installing two push buttons. Quick, cheap and easy... no leaks. Bulletproof. The switches seem to last for about ten years of usage, then replace.
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A hole saw cutting two openings, then installing two push buttons. Quick, cheap and easy... no leaks. Bulletproof. The switches seem to last for about ten years of usage, then replace.
Have you ever put a hole in a balsa-cored deck? It's not that easy. You have to carve the core out and then fill it in with epoxy. It's a serious job, and if you screw it up, you ruin your deck. I've never put a hole in the deck of this boat so far, and don't plan to. The next boat will be metal and without these "challenges".
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Re: Windlass Handset Connector

I used Dri-Plugs for all on deck electrical/electronic connections above decks on my previous boat. I don't know why I didn't consider those products for my windlass install. I guess I just assumed a company that produced a quality product for a reasonable price couldn't last in today's marine market, and was out of business. Glad I was wrong.

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I used Dri-Plugs for all on deck electrical/electronic connections above decks on my previous boat. I don't know why I didn't consider those products for my windlass install. I guess I just assumed a company that produced a quality product for a reasonable price couldn't last in today's marine market, and was out of business. Glad I was wrong.

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I have one of those for my spotlight -- very nice plug. But I need three conductors for the windlass.

But as Noelex pointed out -- there isn't actually any real need for a connector -- I can just hardwire it. Just have to sort out the strain relief.
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Old 28-10-2017, 17:01   #20
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I have one of those for my spotlight -- very nice plug. But I need three conductors for the windlass.

But as Noelex pointed out -- there isn't actually any real need for a connector -- I can just hardwire it. Just have to sort out the strain relief.
IIRC Dri pPlug does make 3 pin connectors. I used one for an Autohelm tiller pilot connector years ago when the mickey mouse Autohelm one died.

But I agree that no connector is needed in this application.

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Have you ever put a hole in a balsa-cored deck? It's not that easy. You have to carve the core out and then fill it in with epoxy. It's a serious job, and if you screw it up, you ruin your deck. I've never put a hole in the deck of this boat so far, and don't plan to. The next boat will be metal and without these "challenges".
Yes I have several times... windlass switches, ten solar fittings. It's not difficult, no problems.
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Have you ever put a hole in a balsa-cored deck? It's not that easy. You have to carve the core out and then fill it in with epoxy. It's a serious job, and if you screw it up, you ruin your deck. I've never put a hole in the deck of this boat so far, and don't plan to. The next boat will be metal and without these "challenges".
Disagree, it's very easy, my last boat was completely balsa, did it many times, including windlass install.
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Re: Windlass Handset Connector

You guys are better shipwrights than I am, or at least, more confident. I've seen a ton of boats with soft decks due to leakage into the core, due to owner-drilled holes in the deck and owner-installed fittings. No way I'm going to take any risk of that just to avoid buying a connector for a handset I already have.
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Re: Windlass Handset Connector

I used this wireless remote on my Muir windlass, it for use with a winch mounted on a Jeep or truck.

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... I can just hardwire it. Just have to sort out the strain relief.
Kellems (or Bryant or Heyco,estc) Strain Relief Grips or Cord Connectors:
http://www.hubbell-wiring.com/press/catalog/V.pdf
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You guys are better shipwrights than I am, or at least, more confident. I've seen a ton of boats with soft decks due to leakage into the core, due to owner-drilled holes in the deck and owner-installed fittings. No way I'm going to take any risk of that just to avoid buying a connector for a handset I already have.
The older style Lewmar deck switches only require a hole small enough for the two wires.
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The older style Lewmar deck switches only require a hole small enough for the two wires.
OK, thanks for that.

How do you use a deck switch if you are down in the anchor locker flaking the chain? Can you operate them with your hand?
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Bloody hell, that's expensive!

But . . . exactly what I was looking for. So thank you!
That's nothing! I just got a quote today for a milspec 90° backshell, $800. And that was only for the backshell, not the connector itself.

Don't get hung up on mill spec parts. Back in the day, military ruled the high reliability world. Now it's the commercial world that runs that. The feds are actively trying to move away from mil specs and go to commercial specs. Most connectors, switches, etc have commercial equivalents that are 1/10th the price. They're often even made on the same line (Honeywell does this). The only difference is the mil parts have 100% inspection to get on the qualified products list. We need to order from the QPL to meet our requirements.

Use digikey or mousers website, it's much easier. You can filter out to exactly what you want. Go for a poly connector, not metal. Hint, check the "in stock" box, otherwise you get false hope!

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I'm using this connector which is waterproof. Its 115v AC for my microwave which is installed in the center island over my engine. The connector is close to the raw water strainer so I wanted an IP67 or 68 connector.
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Re: Windlass Handset Connector

Many years ago I hard-wired the windlass remote wire.
The switch, push-button, up only, I mounted in a PVC plumbing type end cap, a short piece of 2" tube and another end cap for the wire entry compression gland, the tube is short enough that the end-caps butt onto each other. One end cap glued, the other is friction fit.
It is bullet proof.
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Re: Windlass Handset Connector

Dockhead, my jeanneau hardwired remote died on me a couple of years ago and like you I searched for a replacement but since I'm retired and don't own the Bank of England I simply couldn't get myself to pay the kind of money they were asking for a replacement.

Instead I found this. MUch better since I can keep it in my pocket or operate it with one hand and use the other with a boathook to get my chain to lay properly in the well.

best of all - only costs 12.99

https://www.ebay.com/i/232271398987?chn=ps&dispItem=1

very simple to install and it takes about a year for the batteries to wear down (with us anchoring out most of the time.) You also get 2 remotes so if one carps out - you can just use the other one
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