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Old 12-09-2016, 17:27   #181
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Re: What is your Real Amp Hour per Day Usage

I have 6 of these spread around the boat.....


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Old 12-09-2016, 17:34   #182
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Many thanks, appreciate the info.


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Old 12-09-2016, 17:41   #183
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My inverter has some kind of scan mode, I can set the wattage, currently if nothing draws 5 W or more it goes into idle mode and draws almost nothing power wise.
What confuses me is if your not supplying power, how do you know how many amps something draws?
Lot of this electric stuff is simply beyond me, pure magic.
The USB chargers are parasites too I believe, they consume power even when nothing is plugged in, I. Don't know how much though, I gave up worrying about the small stuff, you can drive yourself nuts trying to find all the little parasites.


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Old 12-09-2016, 17:47   #184
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Re: What is your Real Amp Hour per Day Usage

For the typical wall wart its about 0.5 watts so just about 1 ah a day. I figure my inverter looses that and does not really count as it's noise in the load. I only have one that I swap between phone and hot spot device.
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Old 12-09-2016, 18:12   #185
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What confuses me is if your not supplying power, how do you know how many amps something draws?
Look at the device for the watts data printed on the side and do the conversion.
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Old 13-09-2016, 03:21   #186
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Look at the device for the watts data printed on the side and do the conversion.

Sort of. That would be the peak draw calculation but may not represent the actual draw at any given time.


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Sort of. That would be the peak draw calculation but may not represent the actual draw at any given time.


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I assume its being used 100% over the 24 hours if there is not an obvious utilization % like masthead lights. Better to choice worst case scenario IMO.
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Look at the device for the watts data printed on the side and do the conversion.

I guess I wasn't clear, what I am asking is how does something draw more than 5 W from the inverter to turn it on, when the inverter is off, isn't supplying power to begin with?
So it must have a way of supplying a low power, at a low consumption, then if draws exceeds 5 W, it must kick in the main inverter that can supply 3 KW I think.



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Inverters with a standby feature have a sense circuit to detect when there is a demand and switch on the power. It varies from manufacturer exactly how that is done. Since a ac cycle is 0.016 seconds, it only takes a few cycles to ramp up the power from idle. Basically the time it takes to saturate the transformer windings, which from a human standpoint happens almost instantaneously..
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I guess I wasn't clear, what I am asking is how does something draw more than 5 W from the inverter to turn it on, when the inverter is off, isn't supplying power to begin with?
So it must have a way of supplying a low power, at a low consumption, then if draws exceeds 5 W, it must kick in the main inverter that can supply 3 KW I think.
A common way of doing this is that the inverter puts out a very short pulse of power every second or so and it it senses a load greater than 10-15W, it switches itself on.
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I. Basically the time it takes to saturate the transformer windings, which from a human standpoint happens almost instantaneously..
I don't know how but they don't use windings anymore, solid state.
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The heat being produced is from solar radiation warming the panel,
Remove the human made panel and there will be no more solar radiation warming the panel.
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I don't know how but they don't use windings anymore, solid state.
Has to still be a transformer, now the DC to I assume pulsating DC conversion can maybe be solid state, but to change voltage requires a transformer, and windings? The Iron core of the transformer is why mine weighs a ton I believe.
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Remove the human made panel and there will be no more solar radiation warming the panel.
Right, it will warm the Earth instead or the Sea.
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Remove the human made panel and there will be no more solar radiation warming the panel.
I think a class in thermodynamics will help. I suspect several of the posters (me too) have been through this.

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