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Old 23-07-2019, 14:08   #1
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Solar - Unusual low battery voltage

My solar system consists of an array of 4 panels totaling 290W connected to a dumb 30A controller which only shows current status, no history. The battery bank consists of 3 12V probably deep cell batteries, which have been meeting my power needs for the past year since I acquired the boat. The batteries are 9 years old so they don't really owe me anything, I understand they were meticulously maintained by the previous owner. Last night before I went to bed, I just happened to glance at the controller and it showed 10.4V, and there was nothing creating a large draw at the time. I shut off everything else with the exception of the anchor light and it bounced between 10.4 and 10.5V. I decided to turn the fridge back on for the remainder of the night. When I arose just before sunrise, the battery level was at 11V. Normally the bank is at its lowest of about 12.3 to 12.5 first thing in the morning. I decided to try starting the engine, with little hope of there being enough juice in the batteries, however was happily surprised when it managed to start, a little sluggish compared to normal but good enough.. I ran it for about 5 to 10 minutes then shut it down. The batteries then showed about 12.6V, dropped a little bit then picked up again as the solar panels started contributing power to them. I later ran the motor for an hour and in mid afternoon, they are showing about 13.5, as it typically is this time of day. Last fall I tested the SG of all 3 batteries and there were a couple of cells a little below the ideal level but not anywhere near dead. I realize the batteries will need replacing soon, and I'm waiting for delivery of a new Victron SmartSolar 100/20 to replace the old one which will help me decide what to do for replacement batteries when the time comes. Just wondered if anyone has thoughts about my experience.
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Your batteries are toast. The rapid drop and rise in voltage indicates that they no longer have a useable capacity. Sure they can sort of maintain a voltage, for a while, but that’s about it.
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Sounds like one of your batteries has a shorted cell - is the electrolyte level significantly different in a single cell? After charging a while, is one battery hotter than the others, is one cell fizzing a lot less (or a lot more) than the others? If so, remove that battery and the other two might give you a few more weeks.

But you do need new ones.
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I realize the batteries will need replacing soon, and I'm waiting for delivery of a new Victron SmartSolar 100/20 to replace the old one which will help me decide what to do for replacement batteries when the time comes. Just wondered if anyone has thoughts about my experience.
your 9 year old batteries have passed "need replacing soon"
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SB call's it correctly. The time to replace your batteries was many months ago. A new solar charge controller will not "FIX" that. The Victron controller is very sweet, but can't fix DEAD cells.
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SB call's it correctly. The time to replace your batteries was many months ago. A new solar charge controller will not "FIX" that. The Victron controller is very sweet, but can't fix DEAD cells.

Edit: make that 2 years ago.
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Old batteries are worth 50p a kg in the UK, so if you have a scrap yard near by it could be worth making the trip. There is some hope they will be re-cycled so good for the environment and your Karma. Managed to earn £25 for my last lot.

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First off. BArteries should not be dropped below 12v.

When you saw them at 10.4v. You certainly should not have gone to bed. You should have been sh*tting yourself and spent the night trying to charge them

2nd the engine should be in its own battery. A dead house battery should never effect starting a motor.

Running an engine for 5 mins won’t do anything.
Three 12v battery’s (guess group 27 at 80ah each?) at 10.4v would probably take ~6 hours (at high rpm) to charge back up with a ~60a alt.

Buy new batteries. And buy a victron 712 as well.
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