Salt Water as a Power Source?

[wacko]

YouTube - ¡¡ AGUA SALADA REEMPLAZA AL PETROLEO !!

It's in english with subtitles.....

this is pretty awesome. may revolutionize power consumption.....

[denverd0n]

This is a scam, plain and simple. Water is not a power source and cannot ever be. Not even salt water. Water, in fact, is just burnt hydrogen. It is--in a very literal sense--just the ash that is left over after you burn hydrogen. It takes MORE energy to get the hydrogen back out of the water than you can EVER get by burning that hydrogen.

Conservation of energy--it's not just a good idea, IT'S THE LAW!

[Dockhead]

Originally Posted by denverd0n

Conservation of energy--it's not just a good idea, IT'S THE LAW!

I am laughing my ass off, rolling on the floor!!!


In netspeak I guess that would be LMAOROTF.

[Zanshin]

Originally Posted by denverd0n

...Water is not a power source and cannot ever be. Not even salt water...

The magnetohydrodynamic drive, if it ever makes it out of the experimental prototype phase, might disprove that assertion.

[GordMay]

Originally Posted by Zanshin

The magnetohydrodynamic drive, if it ever makes it out of the experimental prototype phase, might disprove that assertion.

Incorrect.

Water is not the source of energy in a MHD motor - it’s a only a component.
Electricity is the external source of energy in this type of electro-magnetic motor.

Forms of Energy
➥ http://www.need.org/needpdf/FormsofEnergy.pdf

[Strygaldwir]

E = MC*C. Isn't that why we keep researching cold fusion? But, yes, the sentiment is correct in regard to the chemical reaction, just the application of the LAW part may be narrowly construed.

[David M]

The desire for clean cheap energy is so great that some people take advantage of peoples desires and this is what you end up with, charlatans who come up with gadgets that supposedly break the law of conservation of energy.

It takes energy to break the hydrogen-oxygen covalent bond, about 9.95eV to break both bonds. There is no magic way of breaking this bond which takes less energy than the normal 9.95eV of energy. It actually takes more energy, because of inefficiencies in any system, to break the covalent bond than the energy you get back by reforming that bond...although technically it takes the same energy to break that bond that is returned when the bond is formed. If that makes any sense.

What the video is showing is a chemical process, not a subatomic process. Only at the subatomic level will you find mass being converted to energy or the reverse, which is clearly not the case here.

My guess is that what he is doing is bombarding the water with enough electromagnetic energy to break those bonds thus releasing hydrogen and oxygen...what you are seeing is the energy released when those bonds reform. I don't know how it does not affect a human standing next to it. Either that or it has something to do with separating the sodium and chlorine ions outside of the solution and seeing the heat formed as they form back into table salt. I'm sure some chemist somewhere has figured out what is actually happening.

Conservation of energy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[mesquaukee]

People are gullible, there’s no doubt about it. There is always a bunch of people always looking for a free ride. I always love seeing them fall for these processes for more producing free energy.
Cold fusion is always a winner. It’s so incredibly efficient all the radiation turns into electricity.
Another favourite is the magnet attached to the fuel line. Getting all those molecules all so nicely lined up, all so orderly and behaving themselves while they are being blasted out through a nozzle.
Lowering a weight down a hole to produce power and storing it in a battery. Then raising it using just a little bit of what had been produced and using the remainder for doing whatever.
Nothing like having 110% and more energy conversion efficiency.
It really too bad it all violates the Laws of Thermodynamics. Life could be so easy.

[Maren]

My sense is he isn't a charlatan. But what hasn't been said is how much energy is being pumped into the salt water. If you put in 300 joules to get 200 joules out, this is an interesting parlor trick. But if you put 200 joules and get out 250 joules, that's a completely different situation.

[wacko]

how much do i get paid for each sale??? gimme a break. i saw something interesting, am not a scientist so I thought it was revolutionary, wanted to share it. period

[James S]

Originally Posted by wacko

how much do i get paid for each sale??? gimme a break. i saw something interesting, am not a scientist so I thought it was revolutionary, wanted to share it. period

I'm with Wacko on this....we are not all scientist...some of us are regular people that think this is cool.
Yes, I too believe that the energy required is probably greater than the energy gotten out but that doesn’t mean it isn’t an interesting demonstration/education for some of us.

Wacko I appreciate you posting stuff like this...some may be valid science some may not, but as someone with a curios mind, I prefer to see it all than have you not post anything.

And I appreciate the smart guys explaining what we are seeing and why it may or may not work or be valid.

It makes me uncomfortable to think that in posting something we are exposing our selves to ridicule when are like to think I am among friends.

Thanks for the cool post.

[GordMay]

Originally Posted by James S

... Wacko I appreciate you posting stuff like this...some may be valid science some may not, but as someone with a curios mind, I prefer to see it all than have you not post anything.

And I appreciate the smart guys explaining what we are seeing and why it may or may not work or be valid.

It makes me uncomfortable to think that in posting something we are exposing our selves to ridicule when are like to think I am among friends.

Thanks for the cool post.

The original video didn’t appear, to me, to be offered as an amusing & cool entertainment; but as awesome revolutionary science ( “Salt Water as a Power Source?”); which is obviously false.

I don’t think that correcting misunderstandings of basic science is unfriendly.

Whilst I agree that no member should ever suffer personal ridicule; some ideas are so fallacious as to be ridiculous - and this was one of those.

Of course, I’ve been wrong before ...

Respectfully,
Gord

[GordMay]

How about Buttered Cats?

Based on the twin principles that buttered bread will always fall face down, and cats always land on their feet, consider the consequences of strapping a piece of bread, buttered side up, to the back of a cat, and then dropping it.

The twin "device" will hover just above the ground, rapidly rotating as the buttered side of the bread and the cat's feet compete to land on the ground.

To create your own hovercraft, merely assemble an array of these "buttered cats", and place your boat on top.

[Chief Engineer]

Sonic Barnacle Busters, Water injection, Algae-Q.......sham-wow

Oh that's roight.....sham/wow....works

[Alexei]

This is total crap, and a scam. Wish I'd thought of it.



I guess I'll just stick with starting a carbon offset company: plant a bunch of trees and get people to pay me not to cut them down. It's only slightly less BS than this HOH crap.


Sheesh. Where's the Better Business Bureau when you need it?