Salt Water as a Power Source? - Page 7

Red Mantis · 01-07-2009, 09:18

Dick, I have a very promising ~~scam~~ theory that I'm just a hair's breadth from bringing to fruition. I don't suppose you have -- hang on (checks Yachtworld) -- $235,500 I could use to complete my research?

beau · 14-07-2009, 16:50

I have had a close look at this concept of making power from saltwater and I believe it is possible.
Using specific Radio frequencies does convert salt water to hydrogen. The problem at the moment is that the concept uses more power to make the specific radio waves than the power in hydrogen that is put out.
They make that quite clear in the article.
It is an interesting concept and with research it MAY prove viable.

A more useful energy storing concept is being researched by Purdue University in the USA which combines Aluminium with Gallium which then reacts with water at room temperature to produce Hydrogen on demand.
The alumina powder residue can be reformed into Aluminium and the Gallium is 100% recoverable. 1 lb of aluminium produces 3,000 liters of hydrogen.

anotherT34C · 14-07-2009, 17:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by mesquaukee

Matter was not created. It was transformed from part of the energy of the hands striking each other.
E=MV^2 where; M=mass of hands, V= velocity of hands.
C just refers to the velocity of light

Matter was created. Energy was transformed (so to speak) from kinetic energy to rest mass.

beau · 14-07-2009, 17:21

Nobody ever suggested in the article that Matter was created.

hellosailor · 14-07-2009, 22:01

"Using specific Radio frequencies does convert salt water to hydrogen."
Cite a source for that, it contradicts all known science.

You can "liberate" the hydrogen from salt water, but in order to "convert" salt water to hydrogen, you'd need to either start with salt water that curiously had the exact same particle ratio (electron-neutron-etc) so it could be converted, or with any other ratio you'd wind up with a partial conversion and then a bunch of waste products and possible energy (particle) liberation. Do the math, you tell me what is in your salt water and write a balanced equation showing the particles In it versus the hydrogen and other products OUT of it.

You cna convert lead into gold--but the price of the required reactor or particle accelerator makes it a damned expensive way to go gold mining.

GordMay · 16-07-2009, 06:50

How about Buttered Cats?

Based on the twin principles that buttered bread will always fall face down, and cats always land on their feet, consider the consequences of strapping a piece of bread, buttered side up, to the back of a cat, and then dropping it.

The twin "device" will hover just above the ground, rapidly rotating as the buttered side of the bread and the cat's feet compete to land on the ground.

To create your own hovercraft, merely assemble an array of these "buttered cats", and place your boat on top.

Zanshin · 16-07-2009, 07:14

I would like to see the endochronic properties of resublimated thiotimoline put to use in order to harness the liberated energy from free (and charmed) tachyons with salt water to produce motive power.

Christian Van H · 16-07-2009, 07:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by GordMay

How about Buttered Cats?

The twin "device" will hover just above the ground, rapidly rotating as the buttered side of the bread and the cat's feet compete to land on the ground.

Wont work. The cat will eventually "throw out" from all the violent spinning, making a mess everywhere. Dont think I haven't tried...it may be possible to acclimate a cat with multiple washings and or dryings in a machine, but the energy used would be hard to ever recoup. Damned physics!

No cats were harmed in the construction of this post.

George Wade · 31-07-2009, 17:43

We should all read BlackLight Power Inc. to see that there are interesting new things to learn. It may soon be practical on a small yacht? Now it is practical enough that medium sized business is beginning to sign up.

Of course it ain't free...

George Wade · 31-07-2009, 17:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by beau

I have had a close look at this concept of making power from saltwater and I believe it is possible. Using specific Radio frequencies does convert salt water to hydrogen...the concept uses more power ... than the power in hydrogen that is put out. They make that quite clear in the article. ...
A more useful energy storing concept is being researched by Purdue University in the USA which combines Aluminium with Gallium which then reacts with water at room temperature to produce Hydrogen on demand.
The alumina powder residue can be reformed into Aluminium and the Gallium is 100% recoverable. 1 lb of aluminium produces 3,000 liters of hydrogen.

A neat method of recycling cans into alumina while producing H2 for anything profitable. It depends upon your location whether it is practical. Have Purdue compared 1lb of aluminium to 1lb of diesel ?

Wukong · 31-07-2009, 20:14

I think you all have missed the most valuable point. How can we turn this phenomena into a weapon where you care not how much energy goes into fire?

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GordMay Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Thunder Bay, Ontario - 48-29N x 89-20W Boat: C.L.O.D. (Cruiser Living On Dirt) Posts: 12,524 Images: 232	How about Buttered Cats? Based on the twin principles that buttered bread will always fall face down, and cats always land on their feet, consider the consequences of strapping a piece of bread, buttered side up, to the back of a cat, and then dropping it. The twin "device" will hover just above the ground, rapidly rotating as the buttered side of the bread and the cat's feet compete to land on the ground. To create your own hovercraft, merely assemble an array of these "buttered cats", and place your boat on top. __________________ Gord May ~~_/)_~~ (Gord & Maggie - "Southbound") "If you didn't have time/$ to do it right in the first place, when will you get the time/$ to fix it?"

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George Wade Registered User Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: West Vancouver, BC, Canada Posts: 187	Blacklight power Inc. We should all read BlackLight Power Inc. to see that there are interesting new things to learn. It may soon be practical on a small yacht? Now it is practical enough that medium sized business is beginning to sign up. Of course it ain't free...

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Wukong Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Panama City, FL Posts: 79	I think you all have missed the most valuable point. How can we turn this phenomena into a weapon where you care not how much energy goes into fire? __________________ When you strike first, you don't have to get even.

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Red Mantis Registered User Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Twin Cities Boat: Rainbow 24 Posts: 25	Dick, I have a very promising ~~scam~~ theory that I'm just a hair's breadth from bringing to fruition. I don't suppose you have -- hang on (checks Yachtworld) -- $235,500 I could use to complete my research?

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beau Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Brisbane Australia Posts: 361 Images: 1	I have had a close look at this concept of making power from saltwater and I believe it is possible. Using specific Radio frequencies does convert salt water to hydrogen. The problem at the moment is that the concept uses more power to make the specific radio waves than the power in hydrogen that is put out. They make that quite clear in the article. It is an interesting concept and with research it MAY prove viable. A more useful energy storing concept is being researched by Purdue University in the USA which combines Aluminium with Gallium which then reacts with water at room temperature to produce Hydrogen on demand. The alumina powder residue can be reformed into Aluminium and the Gallium is 100% recoverable. 1 lb of aluminium produces 3,000 liters of hydrogen.

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beau Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Brisbane Australia Posts: 361 Images: 1	Nobody ever suggested in the article that Matter was created.

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hellosailor Registered User Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 3,988	"Using specific Radio frequencies does convert salt water to hydrogen." Cite a source for that, it contradicts all known science. You can "liberate" the hydrogen from salt water, but in order to "convert" salt water to hydrogen, you'd need to either start with salt water that curiously had the exact same particle ratio (electron-neutron-etc) so it could be converted, or with any other ratio you'd wind up with a partial conversion and then a bunch of waste products and possible energy (particle) liberation. Do the math, you tell me what is in your salt water and write a balanced equation showing the particles In it versus the hydrogen and other products OUT of it. You cna convert lead into gold--but the price of the required reactor or particle accelerator makes it a damned expensive way to go gold mining.

16-07-2009, 07:14	#97
Zanshin Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Germany Boat: Jeanneau 49DS Posts: 262	I would like to see the endochronic properties of resublimated thiotimoline put to use in order to harness the liberated energy from free (and charmed) tachyons with salt water to produce motive power.