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07-11-2014, 07:08
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2013
Boat: Dufour 2800
Posts: 14
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Rutland 913 Wind turbine and refrigeration
Dear members,
Me and my mrs. are thinking of getting a Rutland 913 wind turbine as we dont like the idea anymore to have to run the engine for electricity.
Are there any users out there who are currently operating a Rutland 913 and if so what are they powering with it, in terms of refrigerator for example?
Best regards
Reynir
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07-11-2014, 07:48
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Moderator Emeritus
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Location: Jacksonville/ out cruising
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Re: Rutland 913 Wind turbine and refrigeration
I think you'll find most have sort of given up on wind as a reliable source of electricity and have gone to solar instead.
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07-11-2014, 08:43
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Lowestoft, UK
Boat: Scanmar 40
Posts: 60
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Re: Rutland 913 Wind turbine and refrigeration
I have just bought a Rutland 914, one of the new generation from Rutland. I have combined this with 2x 100 watt solar panels to run the fridge, autopilot, watermaker and domestics, not necessarily all at the same time. I do not have any data for you yet but am assured by Kevin, owner of yachtbits.com, a UK company and the supplier/installer that this will cover all my needs. I would try and get one of the later models as they are much more efficient now at lower wind speeds while not needing to be strapped down in gales.
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08-11-2014, 12:55
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: In winter storage in Wisbech, GB
Boat: Camper & Nicholson 48' Ketch
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Re: Rutland 913 Wind turbine and refrigeration
We have cruised full time for 16 years with an Air-X wind generator. While we were in the Caribbean it served all of our electrical needs including our 120 volt Grunert refrigeration system. In the South Pacific we found that the wind was too unpredictable and the addition of two 120 watt solar panels filled the gap.
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08-11-2014, 19:59
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Marine Service Provider
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Jeffreysbay
Boat: 365 Dean Catamaran
Posts: 249
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Re: Rutland 913 Wind turbine and refrigeration
It seem we are all in agreement that primarily solar panels is more effective for keeping the electrical need supplied and if one have a enough space onboard to cover as much as possible with solar panels as i have done. I happen have a brand new Rutland 913 which i plan to fit purely as a standby generator,if all else fail and the wind blows i guess i will have more juice!
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08-11-2014, 20:30
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Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Winnipeg
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Re: Rutland 913 Wind turbine and refrigeration
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09-11-2014, 05:58
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Senior Cruiser
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Thunder Bay, Ontario - 48-29N x 89-20W
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Posts: 49,087
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Re: Rutland 913 Wind turbine and refrigeration
Greetings and welcome aboard the CF, serannity.
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09-11-2014, 17:46
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: between the devil and the deep blue sea
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Re: Rutland 913 Wind turbine and refrigeration
Depending on the fridge. Rutland's output is sometimes claimed (by owners) as less than specified.
If I were to act on what I heard from Rutland's owners, I would opt for a more powerful windmill. E.g. a D400.
b.
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12-11-2014, 03:43
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2013
Boat: Dufour 2800
Posts: 14
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Re: Rutland 913 Wind turbine and refrigeration
I was looking at the d400, it looks good and the outputis rated much greater than that of the rutland. It is however three times more expensive. The fridge unit is only rated at approximately 1.5 - 2 amps. I have three 40 amp hrs batteries 12 volts and we are three days at most without shore power.
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12-11-2014, 05:43
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Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: between the devil and the deep blue sea
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Re: Rutland 913 Wind turbine and refrigeration
Quote:
Originally Posted by Reynir
I was looking at the d400, it looks good and the outputis rated much greater than that of the rutland. It is however three times more expensive. The fridge unit is only rated at approximately 1.5 - 2 amps. I have three 40 amp hrs batteries 12 volts and we are three days at most without shore power.
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You must derate the output for avg wind speed and expected number of wind hours per average day. Remember we tend to overoptimisize our production capacity and underestimate our loads. Similar rules for solar, alternators and the rest of the kit.
I did not know price was the ruling factor. I thought you wanted high output.
To me, the price is no problem, weight is. Just how it varies from one boat to another.
b.
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12-11-2014, 07:40
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: In winter storage in Wisbech, GB
Boat: Camper & Nicholson 48' Ketch
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Re: Rutland 913 Wind turbine and refrigeration
I just received a post on my email that stated the boat would only be away from the dock a maximum of three days. We cruised the Bahamas for two years on a 30' sailboat with an ICEBOX!! We bought ice when we had company on board. There are any number of options to supply 3 days of refrigeration that don't involve the expense and installation required for a wind system.
The battery bank quoted would be totally inadequate for any substantial energy needs.
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08-03-2015, 08:21
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2013
Boat: Dufour 2800
Posts: 14
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Re: Rutland 913 Wind turbine and refrigeration
You are right, we will be cruising for three months but usually stopping in harbours or anchoring for few days at most. So we guess that we wont be needing refrigeration and a wind turbine. We will however be living on our boat when arriving at our destination, so I guess we will figure something out then with regards to refrigeration.
Anyway, Thank you all for discussing this, this was extremely helpful!
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08-03-2015, 08:59
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Narragansett Bay
Boat: Able 50
Posts: 3,139
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Re: Rutland 913 Wind turbine and refrigeration
Quote:
Originally Posted by barnakiel
Depending on the fridge. Rutland's output is sometimes claimed (by owners) as less than specified.
If I were to act on what I heard from Rutland's owners, I would opt for a more powerful windmill. E.g. a D400.
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My Rutland 913 only put out 9 amps in 35 knots. I would not buy another. Maybe the 914 is better.
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08-03-2015, 10:03
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Marine Service Provider
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: La Paz, Mexico
Boat: 1978 Hudson Force 50 Ketch
Posts: 3,920
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Re: Rutland 913 Wind turbine and refrigeration
Quote:
Originally Posted by Reynir
So we guess that we wont be needing refrigeration and a wind turbine. We will however be living on our boat when arriving at our destination, so I guess we will figure something out then with regards to refrigeration.
Anyway, Thank you all for discussing this, this was extremely helpful!
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Living aboard without Refrigeration.... ....I know it "Can" be done but man is that tent camping roughing it....
See the thread about why cruising and live aboard couples quit and a lot of it has to do with being comfortable.
There is a saying:
"Ice and cold food is the only mark of civilization...everything else is just show"
I've carried down to Mexico Engel units for cruisers that thought they could make it without refrigeration...it a lot harder than you think and personally I would do what it took power wise to make some type of refrigeration happen. Even a simple 12v portable plug in until you figure out what you want/need.
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