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Old 24-04-2016, 12:26   #1
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Renogy 100W panels + GTSUN 400W Max 600W Wind Turbine Generator 12V DC 3

sorry for the lengthy title, but am a novice at being a liveaboard, a rookie when it comes to electric/electronics.

my question is this:

I have my boat hooked up for Renogy 100w panels. and am assuming I can just wire/have wired a GTSUN 400W Max 600W Wind Turbine Generator 12V DC 3 to the same system?

have seen a lot of boats with both solar + wind, so - again - am assuming. but I also know what happens when one does that [especially when it comes to boats].

so - has anyone hooked both of theirs up? is there any trick? would love to be able to do this myself [seeing how a proper electrician already hooked up the solar].

any info would be greatly appreciated!
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Re: Renogy 100W panels + GTSUN 400W Max 600W Wind Turbine Generator 12V DC 3

it'll be it's own system with own controller to the battery. nothing to do with the solar system.
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Re: Renogy 100W panels + GTSUN 400W Max 600W Wind Turbine Generator 12V DC 3

I'm sure the experts will show up soon, but I would wire each according to their instructions as if the other did not exist. When conditions exist for either to charge your batteries, they will.
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Re: Renogy 100W panels + GTSUN 400W Max 600W Wind Turbine Generator 12V DC 3

My 100 watt mono panels run thru their own charge controller and my air x 400 also is wired thru its own internal charge controler they work in tandem no issues like others have said wire each like it is the only charging system on the boat.
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Re: Renogy 100W panels + GTSUN 400W Max 600W Wind Turbine Generator 12V DC 3

A wind generator requires a dump for excess power. A solar controller doesn't. They both need their own controller. The exception is the Midnite dual controller
but it is expensive.
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A wind generator requires a dump for excess power. A solar controller doesn't. They both need their own controller. The exception is the Midnite dual controller
but it is expensive.
OK that's new to me about the dump load requirement. My air x is self'revulating and doesn't need a dump load.
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OK that's new to me about the dump load requirement. My air x is self'revulating and doesn't need a dump load.
Self what?

When the battery bank is full and not accepting current a solar controller turns off or floats. The wind gen will keep producing power at max rate. It has to go somewhere.
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Self what?

When the battery bank is full and not accepting current a solar controller turns off or floats. The wind gen will keep producing power at max rate. It has to go somewhere.
Self regulating ( darn auto screw op). Actually when the batteries are full my wind Genny's electronics turn it off ( short it out) until there is a call for power again . Might just be a feature of the air x units. Their regulator is internal to the units.
My solar controler goes into float as you describe .
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Re: Renogy 100W panels + GTSUN 400W Max 600W Wind Turbine Generator 12V DC 3

my new wind gen has the same internal regulator, it says to wire the provided switch to the gen and batteries, i was wondering if i would be waisting money by putting a charge controler in, (i have one for my solar) i plan to put a voltage meter in and watch to see if it shuts off, if so i'll save some cash, if not, ad the controler later. i however would not use the same controler as my solar, because it's a different system and if the solar was producing power it might tell the wind gen not to, and with a fridge, t.v, radar, radio, autopilot, and gps you might want the extra power.
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Re: Renogy 100W panels + GTSUN 400W Max 600W Wind Turbine Generator 12V DC 3

Just looked up the gtsun wind generator and it has an electromagnetic brake similar to my air x with internal regulating controlling the power output.
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Re: Renogy 100W panels + GTSUN 400W Max 600W Wind Turbine Generator 12V DC 3

Any high quality wind generator I have sold or installed has a dump for excess power. The Superwind is one. http://www.superwind.com/swe/fsw350.htm

Some divert the excess current to a 12 volt water heater element.

How adjustable is a controller in the wind gen itself?
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Any high quality wind generator I have sold or installed has a dump for excess power. The Superwind is one. http://www.superwind.com/swe/fsw350.htm

Some divert the excess current to a 12 volt water heater element.

How adjustable is a controller in the wind gen itself?
Looking at the tech manual on mine it is field adjustable for cutout from 13.6 to 17.0 at the top end the adjustment is accessible externally. Factoryreset to 14.1 v
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Re: Renogy 100W panels + GTSUN 400W Max 600W Wind Turbine Generator 12V DC 3

you have generally two options : connect the solar and wind separately as the one do not know about the existence of the other or use hybrid controller. As in you case the wind is with built in controller you can use only option one .
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Re: Renogy 100W panels + GTSUN 400W Max 600W Wind Turbine Generator 12V DC 3

Looked up the super wind and it doesn't require a dump load but if you want one ( and its the same with the others ) you need an external dump load regulator to control the switching between battery charging and powering the dump load. However if you do use an external regulator you must turn off the internal controller .
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you have generally two options : connect the solar and wind separately as the one do not know about the existence of the other or use hybrid controller. As in you case the wind is with built in controller you can use only option one .
Some like the air x you can turn the internal regulator off to use an external dump load or hybrid charging controller.
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