Cruisers Forum
 


Join CruisersForum Today

Reply
 
Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
Old 13-01-2015, 09:33   #1
Moderator Emeritus
 
David M's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: San Francisco Bay
Boat: research vessel
Posts: 10,150
Need reliable inverter

I need a very reliable true sine-wave, 2000 watt to 3000 watt inverter. It does not necessarily need to charge but it would be preferable if it does. A 3000 watt inverter would be most preferable but a 2500 watt or 2000 watt inverter would still work. Price matters but it is not a limitation on what I purchase. I have four 8D, standard wet cell lead-acid batteries and a 12 volt system.

I would especially value the opinions of people who have the inverter on their boat and have had it for some time. I welcome all opinions though.

Edit: In looking around the internet I am seeing Xantrex, Go Power, Mastervolt, Victron, Aims and Power Bright brands.

Victron MultiPlus 12/3000/120-50 120V VE.Bus Inverter/Charger...opinions?
http://www.victronenergy.com/inverte...8v-800va-3kva/

Mastervolt?....http://www.starmarinedepot.com/maste...x4jBoC8Fvw_wcB
__________________

__________________
David

Life begins where land ends.
David M is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 13-01-2015, 09:43   #2
Registered User

Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: canada
Posts: 1,699
Re: Need reliable inverter

Magnum ms 2812
__________________

__________________
smac999 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 13-01-2015, 09:58   #3
Registered User

Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Texas, USA
Boat: Jeanneau 44DS
Posts: 239
Re: Need reliable inverter

From a features perspective Victron Multiplus charger/inverters seems to always be at the top of the heap. The problem is that, anecdotally, they don't seem to always fare well from a reliability standpoint. I have had their arch rival, Mastervolt, aboard for a while now. I have a Mass Sine 12/2000 which does not have a charger built in. It has been very reliable although I don't work it particularly hard. The worst it really sees is to provide 1.5kw for a hair dryer or 1kw for the microwave.

You might consider their Mass Combi series which has a similar set of features to the Victron product line. Personally, I like an inverter/charger that handles the AC switching internally like these do.
__________________
Garrettw is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 13-01-2015, 10:03   #4
Registered User
 
Stu Jackson's Avatar

Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Cowichan Bay, BC (Maple Bay Marina)
Posts: 6,386
Re: Need reliable inverter

Most skippers will advise against the X brand these days, bought out some years ago by a BIG company that cares little about quality (except for their echo charger which they haven't changed so it astill works although the manual is sadly lacking).

Magnum & Mastervolt have been rated highly by users on this and other boating forums.

A search, Google either/or/and on individual boating forums should get you lots of responses.
__________________
Stu Jackson
Catalina 34 #224 (1986) C34IA Secretary
Cowichan Bay, BC, (Maple Bay Marina) SR/FK, M25, Rocna 10 (22#) (NZ model)
Stu Jackson is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 13-01-2015, 10:13   #5
cruiser

Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: North Charleston, SC
Boat: Camano Troll
Posts: 4,669
Re: Need reliable inverter

My personal experience with Xantrex, both with a charger and an inverter has not been good. Others may have had better experiences. The problem is not so much that they failed, it's that Xantrex doesn't offer repairs.
__________________
rwidman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 13-01-2015, 10:25   #6
Senior Cruiser
 
colemj's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Presently on US East Coast
Boat: Manta 40 "Reach"
Posts: 10,049
Images: 12
Re: Need reliable inverter

We have owned Xantrex (ProSine model), Outback and Victron. Outback and Victron are excellent - the ProSine awful.

I have some experience with Magnum and think they are good too. Magnum and Outback are companies started by engineers from the original Trace company, who left when Xantrex bought Trace. Trace was high quality then.

Mark
__________________
www.svreach.com

You do not need a parachute to skydive. You only need a parachute to skydive twice.
colemj is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 19-01-2015, 10:39   #7
Moderator Emeritus
 
David M's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: San Francisco Bay
Boat: research vessel
Posts: 10,150
Re: Need reliable inverter

Thanks everyone. I am going with the MasterVolt.
__________________
David

Life begins where land ends.
David M is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 22-01-2015, 08:45   #8
Registered User

Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Texas, USA
Boat: Jeanneau 44DS
Posts: 239
Re: Need reliable inverter

Quote:
Originally Posted by David M View Post
Thanks everyone. I am going with the MasterVolt.
Details man, we need details! Are you getting a MassCombi?
__________________
Garrettw is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 22-01-2015, 10:57   #9
Nearly an old salt
 
goboatingnow's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 13,649
Images: 3
Re: Need reliable inverter

I have master volt, never had a unit fail. 2k was on the boat for 5 years plus.

Dave


Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
__________________
Check out my new blog on smart boat technology, networking and gadgets for the connected sailor! - http://smartboats.tumblr.com
goboatingnow is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 27-01-2015, 14:51   #10
Registered User

Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 1
Re: Need reliable inverter

This might be something for you. Got an offer today for it. 15 000 SEK, but is a dutch gear.http://www.victronenergy.com/upload/...sySolar-EN.pdf


Sent from my iPad using Cruisers Sailing Forum
__________________
eriksson.fam is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28-01-2015, 13:31   #11
Registered User
 
typhoon's Avatar

Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Toronto Canada
Boat: Bristol 45.5
Posts: 945
Images: 1
Re: Need reliable inverter

I have had a Victron fail and a Xantrex do the same , I am going with an off marine brand made in the USA.... Vanner.... , big heavy bulky, not fancy , no switching or charging . Just a basic inverter . I have seen these thing fall out of moving trucks on highways and still keep working . Not cheap but bullet proof , I hope . Charles inverters are re-branded Vanners and get rave reviews.

On more thing , they answer there phone and emails , and parts and service is readily available.

Regards

Marine: Power Inverters

Inverter Charger, Power Inverter, Battery Equalizer, Battery Monitoring
__________________
typhoon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28-01-2015, 13:56   #12
Registered User

Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 229
Re: Need reliable inverter

Or for the price of one 2000W Mastervolt you can get four or five Xantrex PROwatt SW. Install one and keep others as backups. I installed one 4 years ago and it still runs perfect. Mastervolt does fail too, occasionally, make sure you have a backup if it is critical equipment...
__________________
BambooSailor is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28-01-2015, 14:37   #13
Registered User
 
Capt.Alex's Avatar

Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Somewhere in the Bahamas
Boat: Hylas 46
Posts: 308
Re: Need reliable inverter

I have a factory refurbished Magnum Energy MS 2812 pure sine wave inverter for sale. Send me a PM if interested.


Sent from my iPad using Cruisers Sailing Forum
__________________
Capt.Alex is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28-01-2015, 14:43   #14
Don't ask if you can't handle it
 
sailorboy1's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: On the boat somewhere
Boat: Hunter 410
Posts: 12,311
Re: Need reliable inverter

My 14 year boat old has a Xantrex Freedom 2000 on it that has worked just fine.

But then again my last boat was a 1988 model that had some inverter with big ass capacitors in it and it was still working 23 years later.
__________________
jobless, houseless, clueless, living on a boat and cruising around somewhere
sailorboy1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28-01-2015, 15:08   #15
Senior Cruiser
 
skipmac's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: 29 49.16 N 82 25.82 W
Boat: Pearson 422
Posts: 12,376
Re: Need reliable inverter

I have had Victron inverter/charger, battery monitor and isolation transformers for about 5 years. All perfect but I think our friend Dockhead has had a very different experience with his Victron gear.
__________________

__________________
The water is always bluer on the other side of the ocean.
skipmac is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
inverter

Thread Tools
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
I Need a Strong, Reliable Galley Foot Pump WaterFixer Plumbing Systems and Fixtures 20 27-05-2015 13:14
True (Pure) Sine Inverter vs Modified Sine Inverter Alecadi Electrical: Batteries, Generators & Solar 19 05-05-2011 07:19
Separate Charger and Inverter or Charger-Inverter ? SvenG Electrical: Batteries, Generators & Solar 14 15-10-2010 18:14
Calculating Amps Drawn Before Inverter and After Inverter ? impi Electrical: Batteries, Generators & Solar 23 26-09-2010 23:24
Available - Need good reliable crew? ughmo2000 Crew Archives 0 25-06-2005 19:33



Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -7. The time now is 10:42.


Google+
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Social Knowledge Networks
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.

ShowCase vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.