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Old 03-12-2012, 08:30   #1
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Need new Gel Batteries in Florida

I have 2 gel house batteries which were installed in 2005. The charge up nicely but they don't seem to last long. 200 amp hour each, 12V. My boat is a Hunter 42.

What brand would you recommend? I am in the Miami area and could anyone recommend the best place to buy these from and recommended brand. Also the best price.

I love the Gels and do not want to switch to golf cart or other.

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Re: Need new Gel Batteries in Florida

The Marilyn Monroe of batteries... love it!!!
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Re: Need new Gel Batteries in Florida

Looked at Odessesy but never found the large ones I need.

200 amp hour

Gel 12V

about 21 inches long 12 inches wide 170 lbs

Did I miss something? I need two to replace what I have.
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Re: Need new Gel Batteries in Florida

He isn't kidding. AGM is a great way to go, and Odyssey is the best, probably the least self discharge of any. Dual personality also, cranking and deep cycle and not limited to the 0.1C charge rate. I've charged at 1.0 C no problems.
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I have moved on to Winston lithium batteries as they are 1/4 the weight and with a cycle life of 3000, are much cheaper than the Odyssey.
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Re: Need new Gel Batteries in Florida

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Looked at Odessesy but never found the large ones I need.

200 amp hour

Gel 12V

about 21 inches long 12 inches wide 170 lbs

Did I miss something? I need two to replace what I have.
How about 14.3" X 10" X 8.7" and 64 lbs for 12 volt 200 a-hr?

For house batteries check out this nice long thread. http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/...nks-65069.html
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Looked at Odessesy but never found the large ones I need.

200 amp hour

Gel 12V

about 21 inches long 12 inches wide 170 lbs

Did I miss something? I need two to replace what I have.
Those must be 8D batteries...? Easier to carry if you put a couple smaller ones in place of each of those. Aren't 8D alot bigger than 200AH?
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I have 2 gel house batteries which were installed in 2005. The charge up nicely but they don't seem to last long. 200 amp hour each, 12V. My boat is a Hunter 42.

What brand would you recommend? I am in the Miami area and could anyone recommend the best place to buy these from and recommended brand. Also the best price.

I love the Gels and do not want to switch to golf cart or other.

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There are only a couple of makers left in the US for GEL batteries. Most of the GEL batts you come across will be made by Deka/East Penn using Sonnenschein technology from Germany. Properly cared for GEL batteris last longer than any other type of battery I install. Look for Deka GEL's and you'll find them.. Any Deka/East Penn dealer can get them even if not stocked..
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Re: Need new Gel Batteries in Florida

I am now thinking about AGM batteries. It appears those might be the best for the price. Your thoughts are welcome. Wholesale Batteries Direct ships free and no sales tax as they come from outside Florida. Price seems competitive.
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Re: Need new Gel Batteries in Florida

I see on that site they don't carry Odyssey but has a 4D AGM 200 a-hr for $440, probably a Deka. Here is the math for price,

Deka should get 500 cycles if cared for and that means no deeper than 50% DOD for 100 a-hr usable.

Winston LiFePO4 160 a-hr 2000 cycles at 80% DOD, so 128 a-hr usable.

Over a 2000 cycle usage, you will purchase the Dekas 4 times for a cost of $1760

while the 160 a-hr lithium will cost $704, not to mention a 70 lb savings in weight.
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These guys have great prices, and will price match anybody.
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I am now thinking about AGM batteries. It appears those might be the best for the price. Your thoughts are welcome. Wholesale Batteries Direct ships free and no sales tax as they come from outside Florida. Price seems competitive.
You will get more cycles out of GEL than with AGM...
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You will get more cycles out of GEL than with AGM...
I don't agree.
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Re: Need new Gel Batteries in Florida

I'm in Miami and I can supply Full River or Lifeline. I'd have to charge you sales tax.
What size are the batteries you need?
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Re: Need new Gel Batteries in Florida

I bought an 8d gel (220 amp-hours)in fort lauderdale a couple of years ago. I went through the phone book and found a supplier near the airport for half the price of West Marine.

Claims about cycle life for batteries are usually created by the marketing department. The big advantage for gels over AGMs is that they are more resistant to chronic undercharging, which is what happens when you leave the dock.
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