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Old 06-04-2011, 16:06   #31
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Re: Need Help! Fischer Panda Generator

as some one else suggested look at changing the motor on the compressor this will be the cheapest option downside will be that you can only charge bottels to 200 bar instead of 300 bar with a change from a 3 to a2hp motor.......
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So everybody, thank you very very much for all your kind help and the usefull opinions!
Finally we managed to start the compressor (after 3 days..., with the existing setup, just a little change, but no cost at all...
So here is how we did it, just for your interest if somone will have a similar problem:
We disconnected the centrifugal switch between the two capacitors, and replaced it with a push button. So now I have to contact the capacitors with the push button for 3 seconds and the compressor is running.
Looks like the original centrifugal switch connected the two capacitors (start and run capacitor) just for 2 seconds, which was enough to start the compressor from shore power, but wasn't enough to start it from the generator. So now I connect them for 3 seconds, which is enough for the start.

My only doubt now as if this way I will damage the compressor or the generator...
Any idea?

Thank you again!
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Old 06-04-2011, 19:44   #33
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Re: Need Help! Fischer Panda Generator

GOOD FIX!

I can see no problem with operating this way.

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I am new to my boat with a Fischer Panda 4KW DC Genset. It was working until I had the boat on the hard for about 8 weeks. Now it will not start. I have taken the boat to a highly recommended and competent mechanic, but still no luck. The engine will turn over, but fails to kick in and start. The mechanic has tried bleeding the fuel line at the injector, testing fuel pump, fuel solenoid, rebuilding the starter, and the list goes on. Any suggestions out there before I give up on this unit. Considering going with a Honda 2K generator and charging through my shore power receptacle if I can't get the FP started.
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Re: Need Help! Fischer Panda Generator

I have an AC ,4 kw Panda. Is yours a Ferryman engine?
Anyway, no start = no fuel.
Mine had a worn electrical plug on the solenoid.
Same result. Take the plug off and look for signs of fretting or corrosion.
Mine had no corrosion but had worn due to vibration and the engine would not run.
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I have an AC ,4 kw Panda. Is yours a Ferryman engine?
Anyway, no start = no fuel.
Mine had a worn electrical plug on the solenoid.
Same result. Take the plug off and look for signs of fretting or corrosion.
Mine had no corrosion but had worn due to vibration and the engine would not run.
Mine has a Kubota engine. Turns out the problem was low compression due to carbon build up around the exhaust valve. The mechanic said the solution is a valve job. I also need to replace the heat exchanger. I am not sure I want to throw more money at this generator. Anyone know what a valve job and heat exchanger should cost?
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Re: Need Help! Fischer Panda Generator

i'm not too fond of the panda, but maybe talk with a local kubota tractor dealer and see if they can rebuild the head in yours. be a good place to start. ....
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Mine has a Kubota engine. Turns out the problem was low compression due to carbon build up around the exhaust valve. The mechanic said the solution is a valve job. I also need to replace the heat exchanger. I am not sure I want to throw more money at this generator. Anyone know what a valve job and heat exchanger should cost?
To be honest Panda parts are over priced.
They try to make as many parts as possible unique to the Panda genset.
My water pump">raw water pump runs on a Gates belt. Panda has them make a special one in between two standard sizes.
I hear through the grapevine that Phasor uses standard parts as much as possible.
Still you don't want to throw away equipment that may have lots of service life left.
If the repair costs more than half the price of a new one, get a new one.

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Re: Need Help! Fischer Panda Generator

heat exchangers can be rebuilt by radiator specialists,valve regrinding and refurbishment of the head is generally cheap and not complicated,a new cylinder head gasket and labour will be the main expense,though not complicated if you do it your self.
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