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Old 10-04-2018, 17:21   #1
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Maybe the best suitcase gas generator yet?

Most know by now that Honda has replaced the famous EU2000i (1600w continuous) with a EU2200w (1800w continuous). Plenty of discussions on the choices.

What I hadn't noticed was that they now sell a model based upon the EU2200 labeled EB2200 and it's EA-LTL & OSHA job site approved presumably due to having a GFCI 120V 20A with neutral-ground bonding.
It loses the direct DC charging and the ability to parallel.

https://powerequipment.honda.com/gen...models/eb2200i
http://cdn.powerequipment.honda.com/...X31Z448000.pdf

Listed at 46.5 pounds dry. So about 54-55 pounds with gas and oil.

$1099 shipped on Amazon.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...ADJP7DJM&psc=1

Looks like it has a full 3 year warranty, even for commercial use.

I sure wish it had BlueTooth and an app, but those aren't as important to me as some other features.

An alternative is to make your own G-N bonded plug and plug into the second outlet on the standard EU2000 or EU2200.
http://noshockzone.org/generator-gro...utral-bonding/
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The ability to connect two together would be top priority, to me
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Old 11-04-2018, 18:29   #3
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The ability to connect two together would be top priority, to me


Why not just get a bigger generator?
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Why not just get a bigger generator?
I agree, when I see someone with two 2000's and the hoses to a larger fuel tank, it just looks like a lot to setup and take down.

Reportedly most AC's up to 10/12k BTU can be run on one 2k if started with echo throttle off.
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Why not just get a bigger generator?
Weight and size of bigger generators are difficult on a boat. Two smaller ones are easier to handle and store.
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Old 11-04-2018, 18:59   #6
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Not saying I would need to, but good to know the capability is there.

Plus the USP of that unit is so easily replicated if anyone thinks needed (which I don't)
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Weight and size of bigger generators are difficult on a boat. Two smaller ones are easier to handle and store.
They are also mutually redundant. That whole "one can start a 12K BTU A/C" thing is marginal in my experience without a big capacitor-style device to manage the "kick off".

I have a steel boat, so there's often grinding and painting. There are times when I want to run the Honda instead of the inverter for power tools under 10 amp draws, which are most of them. YMMV. That new unit looks interesting if you don't need the DC. Of course, if you do, you can just hook into a transformer.
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You're looking at the wrong model. Take a look at the 2200i-Companion.

https://powerequipment.honda.com/gen...200i-companion

1) It includes the Parallel Operation ports

2) Has a 30A connector that should work with a shore-power connector, and doesn't need a 15A -30A connector.
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I agree, when I see someone with two 2000's and the hoses to a larger fuel tank, it just looks like a lot to setup and take down.

Reportedly most AC's up to 10/12k BTU can be run on one 2k if started with echo throttle off.
My dock neighbor has a 16K BTU AC unit that he runs on his Honda 2000. I was shocked when he told me this, so I asked if I could try my 16K unit on his Honda. Ran like a champ. No problems.
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My dock neighbor has a 16K BTU AC unit that he runs on his Honda 2000. I was shocked when he told me this, so I asked if I could try my 16K unit on his Honda. Ran like a champ. No problems.
That is very surprising. Mine ran the 6K I had on my previous boat. It will run the 6K I have for the cabins and head of our current boat, but trips out if I try to run just the 16K alone, with everything else shut down. It simply can't get over the initial draw at startup.

I'm wondering if your neighbor actually has a 16K. I've never known anyone to run a large AC on a 2K genny.
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That is very surprising. Mine ran the 6K I had on my previous boat. It will run the 6K I have for the cabins and head of our current boat, but trips out if I try to run just the 16K alone, with everything else shut down. It simply can't get over the initial draw at startup.

I'm wondering if your neighbor actually has a 16K. I've never known anyone to run a large AC on a 2K genny.

He has a 37' Tartan and he knows his boat well. If he says he has a 16K unit, I'm willing to bet money that he does.
Also, I ran my 16K unit on his Honda as well, just to see if it would. No problem. I can promise you, I DO HAVE a 16K unit.
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Don't forget that AC units can come with a variety of efficiency ratings. Obviously mine and my neighbor both have high ratings. Maybe yours is too low to run on a Honda 2000.
My 16k unit probably uses less electricity than older 12k units.
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He has a 37' Tartan and he knows his boat well. If he says he has a 16K unit, I'm willing to bet money that he does.
Also, I ran my 16K unit on his Honda as well, just to see if it would. No problem. I can promise you, I DO HAVE a 16K unit.
Good to know. Obviously, I would have no way of knowing your neighbor's credibility based on your 2 sentences. You said that he claimed he ran his and it surprised you. You never mentioned that you were able to do the same.

I appreciate the post-clarification.
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Uh...yes I did.

My dock neighbor has a 16K BTU AC unit that he runs on his Honda 2000. I was shocked when he told me this, so I asked if I could try my 16K unit on his Honda. Ran like a champ. No problems.
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Re: Maybe the best suitcase gas generator yet?

I think people forget to leave the eco throttle off and to ensure the AC is the only load. Battery chargers would overload the genny with most AC's.

What I like about this model is N-G bonding that ensures one extra layer of protection. Perfect for RV or Boat. Not for use on a home or building that is grounded.

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