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Old 08-12-2015, 21:10   #76
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Re: IS Lithium IRON phosphate the future of marine batteries?

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I think the salient point in this discussion is that if you have to ask questions about lithium battery systems ..... you are not ready to have them in your boat !
So that type of blanket statement would make this entire forum pointless. Wow

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Old 08-12-2015, 21:18   #77
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So that type of blanket statement would make this entire forum pointless. Wow

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I can only speak from the experience of 3200 surveys.... as in if you don't understand or recognize the issues with the photo below you should not be playing with lithium batteries.
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Old 09-12-2015, 00:12   #78
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Re: IS Lithium IRON phosphate the future of marine batteries?

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So that type of blanket statement would make this entire forum pointless. Wow

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I would take it to mean: Keep asking questions until you have sufficient knowledge to safely install such a system.

Same with many other threads where the best answer is frequently "learn more before you try this yourself"
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I would take it to mean: Keep asking questions until you have sufficient knowledge to safely install such a system.

Same with many other threads where the best answer is frequently "learn more before you try this yourself"
Sorry I still don't get it. That response only makes sense if I had suggested not asking questions, which I did not.
I think my point stands. The OP seems intent on installing these things but is clearly, as I said " not ready" to have them in his boat given the obvious lack of understanding of very complex systems.
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I think my point stands. The OP seems intent on installing these things .
Please point out where this was ever said, now your just making things up



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Old 09-12-2015, 03:29   #81
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Sorry I still don't get it. That response only makes sense if I had suggested not asking questions, which I did not.
I think my point stands. The OP seems intent on installing these things but is clearly, as I said " not ready" to have them in his boat given the obvious lack of understanding of very complex systems.
Oh so if someone doesn't exactly understand inverters or Ac, Or refrigeration, they should avoid these things as well?



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I would take it to mean: Keep asking questions until you have sufficient knowledge to safely install such a system.

Same with many other threads where the best answer is frequently "learn more before you try this yourself"
This I would agree with. My intent was to point out a marketed drop in system, and then find out if this is truly safe, functional better etc. Some have said Absolutly not but didnt really make it to clear as to why. So it seems interesting at the least a company would market and sell it, considering "its (lithium iron batteries not ion)is so dangerous"

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I didn't say that, now you are just making things up.
it's highly unlikely that a refrigerator will burn down your boat.
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I understand English is not your first language. Perhaps while you are researching lithium battery chemistry you could also look up the word "seems" as used in the phrase ... "The OP seems intent".
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Re: IS Lithium IRON phosphate the future of marine batteries?

What part of asking a question implies intent? English is my first language but not yours apparently.
Now had I said " I'm planning on", or I'm intending to, or even I am installing,,, that sir would "seem" like or imply intent.

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Oh so if someone doesn't exactly understand inverters or Ac, Or refrigeration, they should avoid these things as well?
I suspect that when AC was still new, and not yet widespread, that indeed it was not wise to have it if you didn't understand it...
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What part of asking a question implies intent? English is my first language but not yours apparently.
Now had I said " I'm planning on", or I'm intending to, or even I am installing,,, that sir would "seem" like or imply intent.

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My apologies. Your inability to grasp the meaning of the word "seem" made it seem to me that English did not come naturally to you.
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My apologies. Your inability to grasp the meaning of the word "seem" made it seem to me that English did not come naturally to you.
No worries we all know how surveyors are used to wording things 😉

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Re: IS Lithium IRON phosphate the future of marine batteries?

We'll see some radical advances in early adopter battery technology in the next 5 or 10 years.

We're starting to see some research breakthroughs on energy density in lithium oxygen and hydrogen fuel cells.

We're currently into year 8 with our Trojans. Suspect we'll need to replace them before they hit the decade.

The Trojans will be replaced with Trojans. The next refresh in say 2020 will be a next gen battery.

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No worries we all know how surveyors are used to wording things 😉

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Acknowledged, I do tend to speak with a degree of literacy
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