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Old 10-01-2016, 05:38   #76
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Steph. Enough with the gas already. Dockhead will have MY guts for garters.
Ask Dock' Steph.
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Old 10-01-2016, 05:53   #77
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Well if the slow running gardiner engine is out, how about something like this? and on the Isle of Wight which is handy. Some interesting possibilities

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Steph. Enough with the gas already. Dockhead will have MY guts for garters.
Ask Dock' Steph.
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Remembered...maybe best way, have your own good bottles...galvanised or glass or ss or alloy...and a set of international adaptors...think.
That's a very nice idea.

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Well if the slow running gardiner engine is out, how about something like this? and on the Isle of Wight which is handy. Some interesting possibilities

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Always keeping an eye on hybrid /electric propulsion... i'm an electric fan...
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Old 10-01-2016, 06:02   #81
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The green Beta was nice, toothed belt drive. You'll get Dock' to buy the Beta....he's a sucker for huge alternators/generators
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Jesus Stephano, I hava toa exapain everything? "Guts for garters" means....Dockhead will kill me...sort of.
Google this " define.......have your guts for garters......"
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This Dockhead. The rest of your concerns re the new boat are incidental. This is crucial.

Gin tankage really is underrated as being essential - how do others survive????
Indeed.

The only question is whether the tank should be integral, or separate?

Or maybe TWO gin tanks offset port and starboard, with a transfer pump, so the gin can be used as moveable ballast.

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Always keeping an eye on hybrid /electric propulsion... i'm an electric fan...
Hybrid is great. My friend's big motor yacht is diesel-electric, so not exactly hybrid, but one huge screw turned by a huge electric motor, and multiple generators which can be run in various combinations depending on the load. It's very cool indeed, with many advantages.

But for where I intend to be sailing, KISS is the rule. No science experiments or beta testing for this boat. So it will be simple straight shaft drive.
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That actually looks extremely interesting. It's a parallel hybrid, so normal power transmission is mechanical. Not all that complicated. Maybe worth looking at; thanks. Need 150 horsepower, however, as that is the minimum for which you can buy a Hundested prop.
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Wouldn't it be kinda cool to have a hydraulic pump/motor fitted on an aux engine and drive a generator head located elsewhere... AND... have a pump/motor fitted to the main shaft???

You could drive the genset with the aux or the main, and emergency drive the propshaft with the aux???
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That's a very nice idea.

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Gas is thread drift, but it's relevant to long-distance cruising.

You can't use your own bottles, because in most places it is exchange only, so you have to have standard bottles. It's a big PITA to keep different standard bottles on board, but I do it, of necessity, since UK bottles are available nowhere on the Continent, and every country seems to have its own standard. I keep UK and Finnish/Estonian standard bottles; can usually get between those zones without running out.

On my next boat, however, NO GAS. For reasons of simplicity, safety, and difficulty or impossibility of sourcing gas in remote places.

My galley will be ALL ELECTRIC. Another reason to have robust battery/generator capacity, so getting back to the original topic.
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Wouldn't it be kinda cool to have a hydraulic pump/motor fitted on an aux engine and drive a generator head located elsewhere... AND... have a pump/motor fitted to the main shaft???

You could drive the genset with the aux or the main, and emergency drive the propshaft with the aux???
It would be really cool to be able to get both propulsion and generating out of the aux engine.

Does anyone know a system which will do what Happy describes here?
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Wouldn't it be kinda cool to have a hydraulic pump/motor fitted on an aux engine and drive a generator head located elsewhere... AND... have a pump/motor fitted to the main shaft???



You could drive the genset with the aux or the main, and emergency drive the propshaft with the aux???

Could also drive the windlass, furlers and thruster, except I would do it with two identical engines, both needing to be online for max speed, but I bet you would see great fuel consumption on one, plus split the hours between the two.
All big consumers of power would be hydraulic, small consumers of course electric.
Add in a simple hydraulic accumulator and now your engines could be started hydraulically if needed.


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Could also drive the windlass, furlers and thruster, except I would do it with two identical engines, both needing to be online for max speed, but I bet you would see great fuel consumption on one, plus split the hours between the two.
All big consumers of power would be hydraulic, small consumers of course electric.
Add in a simple hydraulic accumulator and now your engines could be started hydraulically if needed.


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