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Old 29-01-2011, 08:28   #1
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Honda EU2000 VS Kipor 2000

I just bought a new Honda EU2000iA to replace the Kipor 2000 I have had for several years. So far, it doesn't seem that the Honda is as 'powerful' as the Kipor was.
I have a Freedon 20 Inverter/charger that the Honda will not pull. It shuts the overload protector off when the load shows 65Amps being put into the batteries. I have reduced the 'powershare' on the charger and that does seem to help at a slower charge rate.
Also when, on the Kipor, the charger went to 'Accept', I could turn on the water heater and heat water as I continued to charge the batteries. This is not possible with the Honda.
I'm not sure of the pull as far as watts, amps, volts, but I'm disappointed that the Honda doesn't appear to serve my needs as well as I had hoped it would.
Any thoughts?
I'll take it to a dealer next week and get the output checked, maybe an issue there?

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Old 29-01-2011, 08:43   #2
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On my Freedom 20 when the DC output was 65 amps the AC input would be 12-15 amps. Since the Honda's continuous output rating is 1,800 watts, that is 15 amps AC.

Boat water heaters are rated at 1000 or 1500 watts. When the Freedom is in its acceptance stage it can still be drawing 5-10 amps AC or 600-1200 watts. There isn't anything left for your water heater.

Sounds like your Honda is doing all it was designed for. Also sounds like your Kipor was a very robust 2,000 watt generator.

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Old 29-01-2011, 08:46   #3
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I was just looking into that particular Honda generator for something else. It is capable of 16 amps at 120 volts. Are you starting the generator first, letting it warm up and then turning on the charger?

Get a clamp ammeter and an AC splitter and measure the current being drawn by the charger when you turn it on.

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I have the same charger, and generator I have never had any prolbems with. The generator is over six years old with many hours on it usually starts 1st pull every now and then 2 pulls. My manual states 13.4 amps max output after the charger cycles down I can run the hot water heater but don't like to run it that hard.
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Thanks for the replys.
Maybe my new Honda is doing what it was designed to do and my Kipor was doing more???
I will take it to a dealer and double check it's output just to make sure.

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Old 30-01-2011, 05:15   #7
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I have the same charger, and generator I have never had any prolbems with. The generator is over six years old with many hours on it usually starts 1st pull every now and then 2 pulls. My manual states 13.4 amps max output after the charger cycles down I can run the hot water heater but don't like to run it that hard.

Yes, when I turned on the water heater, it really did run hard.

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My 7 year old Honda EU2000i will put out 96 amps when charging through my Freedom 20. Also when at the accept stage and still putting out 20 odd amps I can start the hot water heater. The Honda goes at max when first charging and when I put the water heater on. Maybe the newer ones are different.
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Yep, That's how my Kipor worked It was great when at anchor for several days. Charged batteries, hot water, movies at night etc. Yep life is good!
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Re: Honda EU2000 VS Kipor 2000

In Hong Kong we all want the Honda to run our chargers and pumps etc.. The Kipor has identical performance in all capacities at half the price of the Honda.13,000 HKD as opposed to 5,500 HKD. I suspect that the lifetime of the Kipor if looked after should last and at less than half the price of the Honda is worth the gamble.
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Re: Honda EU2000 VS Kipor 2000

As a long-time fan of the Honda, I'm wondering if you noticed whether it was any quieter than your previous Kipor? That's one thing people sometimes point to in favor of the Honda.
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Re: Honda EU2000 VS Kipor 2000

I get about 110amps max charging from a 2000i but it's overloaded and will shut down if it runs like that for more than a few seconds. 90 amps continuous is fine though. I can turn on the water heater once the charging current is down to about 40 amps. If you're only getting 65 amps and it's overloading on that then you may have a problem, either with the generator itself or with the boat wiring.
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