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Old 07-12-2017, 10:30   #31
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Re: Honda 2000 wat generator vs yanmar with 150 amp alternator

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Sounds like my situation I'm in the Chesepeake to up on the sasafrsss river. I'd like to use my ac as you described. However I have an old crusaire I believe it's a 12k I'm looking to replace it with a new unit but only if I can run it on the hook.
Definitely include some kind of startup assist or you're not going to be able to start the a/c without a generator that can deal with a big startup load. If I were you, I'd give it a try with the old a/c first. The Dometic SmartStart is pricier. There are a couple of other options out there from Supco. There are some archive discussions that address some of this. Here's some:

HOT HOT HOT! running AC on Honda generator

Start Air Conditioner Off Inverter Then Switch To Generator

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IMO, for air conditioning in a hot climate you are going to need a genset.
For any mobile off-grid context, that is incontrovertible fact, not a matter of opinion.

Running a tiny unit off lots of panels but only for peak insolation hours per day

is the exception that proves the rule
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Companion Model which normally costs $1,099, $100 more than the regular Honda 2000.
Can the CM be converted to run standalone?
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I'm gonna say this falls under the "too good to be true" category...although it's too soon to tell.

https://www.paypal-community.com/t5/...r/td-p/1376787

I have been waffling over bulking up my alternator, adding solar or buying a portable generator. Giving the kind of cruising I do and the likelihood this isn't my last boat, I am definitely leaning towards the Honda.At least I can take that on to my next purchase...
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Can the CM be converted to run standalone?


Yes, the only difference between the companion and the standard is the 30amp twistlock connector on the electrical output panel.

By itself it will output itís peak of 16 amps through the 30 amp outlet (for short durations) otherwise it will deliver its rated 13 amps continuous.
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Can the CM be converted to run standalone?
john, wouldn't the Honda website answer that ?.?

http://powerequipment.honda.com/supp.../generators/eu
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Yes, the only difference between the companion and the standard is the 30amp twistlock connector on the electrical output panel.
So if I were to purchase two of these without a standard one, they could be paralleled?

Note to Stu: I was not able to get the answer to this at the website, but thaks for the link. On this topic would prefer to discuss it on the forum anyway.
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Note to Stu: I was not able to get the answer to this at the website, but thaks for the link. On this topic would prefer to discuss it on the forum anyway.
I agree that it would be helpful to do so here, just trying to get to the "horse's mouth", that's all.

I clicked on the Generator tab on that link, which shows all their models.

The eu2000i companion says this:


Built in 30A outlet for RV use and easy parallel capability with another EU2000i

The EU2000i Companion offers one 30A receptacle for RV applications (requires optional adaptor) and one 20A receptacle. The 30A receptacle allows 2 EU2000i models to be run in parallel by way of a simple parallel cord and not an external parallel kit.


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The way I read it, without delving into more details that this, is that the 30A outlet ALLOWS you to parallel them. That doesn't necessarily mean, to me at least, that one unit cannot run as a standalone one.

More reading is required to understand what the optional adapter is.
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So if I were to purchase two of these without a standard one, they could be paralleled?

Note to Stu: I was not able to get the answer to this at the website, but thaks for the link. On this topic would prefer to discuss it on the forum anyway.


These outlets are used for connecting the EU2000i Companion to either an EU2000i or another EU2000i Companion generator for parallel operation (see page30). A Honda approved parallel operation cable kit (optional equipment) is required for parallel operation. This kit can be purchased from an authorized Honda generator dealer.
Parallel Operation Outlets


Above from manual.....below from me

From the manual.......Yes two companions can be parallel. Like I said, the only difference is the 30a twistlock connector
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Tx. Yes, but the horse often has its own profit motives first and foremost, often means hard to get answers to "out of the box" questions.
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Check the "contact us" page. Doesn't seem very legit
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I would go with the Honda. When we bought our boat it came with a huge aftermarket alternator/110V system that provided 110V for the boat whenever the engine was running.

It ran the AC (16,000 BTU) just fine. But once the engine warmed up, you couldn't afford to turn it off without sweltering. That heavy diesel engine stays hot a long time, and all that heat ends up in the cabin.

The Honda also runs the AC just fine, even though we don't need it anymore, and the benefit is it doesn't add any heat to the cabin when you shut it off since it's up on deck. When we ran the Honda at night, a full tank would last from 9 PM until about 4 AM before it ran out of gas, and that was plenty.
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Re: Honda 2000 wat generator vs yanmar with 150 amp alternator

I have a 12000 btu A/C unit which
runs off my honda 2000 but had to add a slow start coil onto the A/C
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From the manual.......Yes two companions can be parallel. Like I said, the only difference is the 30a twistlock connector


There is one other difference. The non companion model has a 12v direct charge source that the Companion does not.
Itís not much of a charger, nothing to charge your bank, more of a trickle charger, but itís a great way to add a Hobbs meter to a Honda as most Hobbs meters are low voltage DC, usually something like 10V to 30V or so
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Speaking of ACs, has anyone developed a marine AC using the new inverter technology? Inverter ACs are supposed to be much more energy efficient and don't have the surge of current needed when they start. So it seems like they would be perfect for a low power availability application like a boat.
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