Cruisers Forum
 


Join CruisersForum Today

Reply
  This discussion is proudly sponsored by:
Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about their products on Cruisers Forums. Advertise Here
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Rate Thread Display Modes
Old 07-06-2018, 21:45   #61
er9
Registered User

Join Date: Sep 2014
Boat: 1980 (Canning) Mariner36
Posts: 510
Re: Can i double over wire and crimp it?

I ended up just wrapping the LED wire around the 14 gauge wire, covered about two inches of the wire with 3/16 heatshrink and then stuffed the bare ends into one end of a 14 gauge butt terminal. they both barely fit. crimped them tightly then heat shrunk the entire terminal overlapping an inch or so of the heatshrunk wire. worked perfectly, nice strong connections. only LED lights but i know i wont have to look at the wiring now for another 30 years or so.
__________________

er9 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-06-2018, 05:41   #62
Senior Cruiser
 
skipmac's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: 29 49.16 N 82 25.82 W
Boat: Pearson 422
Posts: 14,108
Re: Can i double over wire and crimp it?

Quote:
Originally Posted by phantomracer View Post
Soldering is not acceptable by abyc. I have never soldered on a boat. A properly crimped terminal is far stronger...and a lot easier than soldering! Check out the marinehowto link above for why.

99.9% of the time i use heat shrink terminals using a proper crimping tool (boughr from marinehowto.com). Makes a huge difference using a quality tool!

I do sometimes use eurostrips for really thin wires though.
I don't know about ABYC requirements but I can confirm from long personal experience that crimping is strong and reliable and wiring really doesn't need soldering. Most recently I've been redoing a lot of wiring on a 34 year old boat that was all crimped fittings. So far the only wires that had any problem were the ones in the bilge and that because they were old, non shrink type crimps.

Don't have any documentation of this but years ago a friend that had been a tech in the Navy told me that they used straight crimping on all their wiring. If it's good enough for the US Navy it's sure good enough for me.

So, any ex-Navy techs out there that can confirm this?
__________________

__________________
The water is always bluer on the other side of the ocean.

Sometimes it's necessary to state the obvious for the benefit of the oblivious.

Rust is the poor man's Loctite.
skipmac is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-06-2018, 06:10   #63
Registered User

Join Date: Jan 2017
Posts: 12,100
Re: Can i double over wire and crimp it?

Soldering can be done well just as good a result, but takes a high level of practiced skill.

Crimping is foolproof with minimal skills, given the right tools and supplies.

MS's referenced milspec pull tests can confirm connection quality.

The key is repeatable consistency so testing every crimp is not required.
john61ct is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 08-06-2018, 06:19   #64
Registered User
 
phantomracer's Avatar

Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Boston, MA
Boat: 1968 Ohlson 38 Sloop
Posts: 862
Images: 9
Send a message via Yahoo to phantomracer
Re: Can i double over wire and crimp it?

From what I understand (correct me if I am wrong) you CAN solder, but it has to be crimped as well. That is a bit silly, if it IS crimped properly, the solder won't penetrate the wires into the crimp! For solder only, it has to be secured in a way that it can't move or flex for ABYC. A lot more work to take the place of a stronger and easier crimp connector!

crimping properly has all the advantages and none of the disadvantages..again, if done correctly. I would say 90% of DIYers don't do (yours truly included) it perfectly (but usually good enough).

After reading Rods page, buying his tool and practicing, my crimps ARE getting better.. and it is amazing how strong they are. Makes a HUGE difference over using dimple crimpers and destroying expensive waterproof connectors!
__________________
Paul S
Blog - https://www.facebook.com/ohlson38project
website http://www.mildredrose.com
phantomracer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 18-06-2018, 12:55   #65
er9
Registered User

Join Date: Sep 2014
Boat: 1980 (Canning) Mariner36
Posts: 510
Re: Can i double over wire and crimp it?

Quote:
Originally Posted by phantomracer View Post
thanks for that link / reminder. its only one of the few articles on his site i hadnt read.

i ordered a set of his crimps and some proper heatshrink butt splices.

i didnt realize just how bad my wiring and crimping was until i used a good crimping tool.
__________________

er9 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
double braid rope over V-shaped, wire sheave david samuelson Deck hardware: Rigging, Sails & Hoisting 7 30-03-2017 03:32
For Sale: Ancor ratcheting crimp tool roverhi Classifieds Archive 3 26-07-2012 16:13
Pls Help Aussie and Crimp terminals, metric and AWG mischief Electrical: Batteries, Generators & Solar 3 13-05-2012 04:35
A Proper Crimp - One You Can Believe In btrayfors Electrical: Batteries, Generators & Solar 60 28-09-2011 12:44
Electrical Crimp Connectors sailorboy1 Electrical: Batteries, Generators & Solar 85 22-06-2010 07:20

Advertise Here


Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -7. The time now is 19:09.


Google+
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Social Knowledge Networks
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
×

ShowCase vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.