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04-08-2014, 22:45
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Baqon drop-in LiFePo battery systems with BMS
Just got this in my email.
Balqon Electric Vehicle Manufacturer
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Did not have chance yet to check it out.
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04-08-2014, 23:06
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Re: Baqon drop-in LiFePo battery systems with BMS
Interesting.
Looks good for those of us who are not so informed electrically.
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05-08-2014, 12:25
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Re: Baqon drop-in LiFePo battery systems with BMS
Prices just keep coming down...
I just bought four 400AH 3.2v cells for "wholesale" at $400 ea and they are selling what looks like a simular cell or $440 retail, so I like to see the pricing falling as more and more players enter the market.
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05-08-2014, 14:07
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Re: Baqon drop-in LiFePo battery systems with BMS
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Originally Posted by SV THIRD DAY
Prices just keep coming down...
I just bought four 400AH 3.2v cells for "wholesale" at $400 ea and they are selling what looks like a simular cell or $440 retail, so I like to see the pricing falling as more and more players enter the market.
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Who from and what brand of cell ? Web URL ?
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05-08-2014, 14:24
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Re: Baqon drop-in LiFePo battery systems with BMS
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Who from and what brand of cell ? Web URL ?
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Balqon Electric Vehicle Manufacturer
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05-08-2014, 14:27
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Re: Baqon drop-in LiFePo battery systems with BMS
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Who from and what brand of cell ? Web URL ?
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Here is where I got mine.
SP-LFP400AH - Lithium Storage Inc.
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05-08-2014, 14:52
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Re: Baqon drop-in LiFePo battery systems with BMS
If I understand though, this is a turn key, simple drop in LifePo bank complete with BMS etc. Replace your LA bank with this, adjust your charger voltages and enjoy.
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05-08-2014, 14:55
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Re: Baqon drop-in LiFePo battery systems with BMS
15 KW,
Somebody want to do the math and tell me how many T-105's it takes to get 15KW at 12V?
I think my pencils broken
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05-08-2014, 15:21
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Re: Baqon drop-in LiFePo battery systems with BMS
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Originally Posted by SV THIRD DAY
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Thanks!
Did you make a mistake on the pricing ? You said that you paid $400 wholesale but their retail is $440. The web site shows a price of $540 (an extra $100 per cell).
Did the price drop and the page isn't updated, did they make a mistake selling it too cheap to you or did you mis-type?
Oh .... is there a secret password to get the $440 price or hey, maybe even the $400 price ???
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05-08-2014, 15:28
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Re: Baqon drop-in LiFePo battery systems with BMS
Just compared Balqon and Sinopoly - Balqon are rated at 2000 cycles and Sinopoly cells are rated at more than 1500 cycles. I wonder if it is a case of one manufacturer being optimistic and another covering their butt or if there is a real life difference in the cells. That is 25% life difference which is significant.
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05-08-2014, 15:44
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Re: Baqon drop-in LiFePo battery systems with BMS
OK,
Check my math please. To get to 15KW you you need about 11 or 12 of the T-105's?
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05-08-2014, 15:53
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Re: Baqon drop-in LiFePo battery systems with BMS
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OK,
Check my math please. To get to 15KW you you need about 11 or 12 of the T-105's?
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15000w / 12v = 1250
1250 / 220 (golf cart ah) = 5.7 @ 6v
5.7 * 2 (to create series for 12v) = 11.4 golf cart batteries
(approx 12 batteries)
However, this measurement isn't exactly meaningful, it isn't apples to apples since the lithium batteries have different charge/discharge properties. I've most often heard that you can do with a lithium bank roughly half the size of a lead acid bank.
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05-08-2014, 16:19
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Re: Baqon drop-in LiFePo battery systems with BMS
They claim 3000 cycles to 70% DOD
And this appears to be warrantied for five years (pro-rated). Since the BMS is part of the pack, it would be hard to claim that you mistreated the battery as reason to deny the warranty.
So they must be pretty confident that this life is conservative
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05-08-2014, 16:22
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Re: Baqon drop-in LiFePo battery systems with BMS
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Originally Posted by Target9000
However, this measurement isn't exactly meaningful, it isn't apples to apples since the lithium batteries have different charge/discharge properties. I've most often heard that you can do with a lithium bank roughly half the size of a lead acid bank.
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That is my understanding, so the 9KW pack for $3,300 gives you considerably more useable power than a dozen golf cart batteries.
Unless I'm missing something here we pretty much have that turn key, install and forget battery pack that is essentially zero maintenance and will supply enormous amounts of current?
>3K ain't chump change, but it sure looks promising, next big challenge may well be how to generate the charging current
Looks promising to me
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05-08-2014, 16:55
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