Cruisers Forum
 


Reply
  This discussion is proudly sponsored by:
Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about their products on Cruisers Forums. Advertise Here
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Rate Thread Display Modes
Old 09-12-2009, 10:40   #1
Registered User

Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 19
Alternator Schematic

Hi, I need some help with a wire schematic fo a valeo alt. thanks
stxboy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-12-2009, 11:37   #2
Senior Cruiser
 
GordMay's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Thunder Bay, Ontario - 48-29N x 89-20W
Boat: (Cruiser Living On Dirt)
Posts: 49,442
Images: 241
That's what you get for owning a Volvo.
This site may have some help
Tiedemann Auto-Elektrik
__________________
Gord May
"If you didn't have the time or money to do it right in the first place, when will you get the time/$ to fix it?"



GordMay is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 09-12-2009, 12:10   #3
Registered User

Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 19
thanks I have a 4 wire alt system( 1 )tach (2) hr counter? (3) ground (4) bat+ wire this wire goes to the center lug of a bat isolator . I have no power on the bat + wire I have power on the other 2 wires on the isolator I have a yellow wire comming out of the alt and it goes to the bat+ lug on the alt. no output at alt, bat 9.8 volts the engines have been replace at some point with Kubotas. Iam a auto tech so I do understand wiring I just need a diagram or some Idea how this sould be wired it may have not been done right from the start
stxboy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-12-2009, 13:53   #4
Senior Cruiser
 
GordMay's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Thunder Bay, Ontario - 48-29N x 89-20W
Boat: (Cruiser Living On Dirt)
Posts: 49,442
Images: 241
An Alternator with 4 stator leads, is a Wye type. One of the leads is called the Neutral Junction. The Neutral Junction is common to all the other leads. Wye wound stators are used in alternators that require high voltage output at low alternator speeds. Two windings are in series at any one time during charge output.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	Alernator - Output Wiring Diagram.jpg
Views:	5206
Size:	17.9 KB
ID:	11633  
Attached Images
 
__________________
Gord May
"If you didn't have the time or money to do it right in the first place, when will you get the time/$ to fix it?"



GordMay is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 10-12-2009, 03:16   #5
Nearly an old salt
 
goboatingnow's Avatar

Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Lefkas Marina ,Greece
Boat: Bavaria 36
Posts: 22,801
Images: 3
I think the term 4-wire the OP used is confusing,

What you have is a main ouput from the regulator the bat + , and two aux outputs ( if I understand you correctly)ole thing being internally regulated. The outputs will be diode seperated and it sounds like the main diode on the bat+ line is gone. The yellow wire is the sense line from the regulator and as its connected at the alt, its "machine sensed"
goboatingnow is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-12-2009, 04:09   #6
Registered User

Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 19
There seems to be only 1 output on the alt it has Bat+ and Bat- these are big 10gage wires the yellow wire coming out of the alt hooks to the Bat +. There is no power at the bat+ wire . On every alt system I have worked on it has power on it coming from the bat, but on this it goes to the isolator. I checked the other engine it is the same. The engine bat is only used on start up, but the alt should charge the house bat. Does the alt sense it is spinning and then start charging without any power coming from the bat ? Are does someone have this wired wrong or a bad Isolator .
stxboy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-12-2009, 07:33   #7
Nearly an old salt
 
goboatingnow's Avatar

Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Lefkas Marina ,Greece
Boat: Bavaria 36
Posts: 22,801
Images: 3
ok , you have a valeo isolated ground alternator. so the B- should be to ground, The W terminal is the tach and the othe6 rone normally marked "61" is the ignition/idiot light/ field coil excite, this should have power on it, when the ignition/starter key is turned.

If your battery positive cable runs through a diode isolater, then there will not be power ie 12V on that terminal with the alternator not running. However power should appear once the alternator spins up. If not either (a) The field /excite supply via the "61" terminal isnt powered or (b) The diode trio is gone on the alternator, this could happen if the battery switch was disconnected with the altermator running.

ogh 61 could also be labeled d+
goboatingnow is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-12-2009, 13:57   #8
Registered User

Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 19
Thank you for the help to understand the system it was a bad reg in the alternator. Knowing how the system works was key thanks again
stxboy is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
alternator


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Hot Water Heat Piping Schematic KevinE Plumbing Systems and Fixtures 0 02-06-2009 07:23
NICE SIMPLE easy SCHEMATIC. awr401 Electrical: Batteries, Generators & Solar 3 28-02-2009 05:40
ALTERNATOR//DID YOU KNOW........ KIWI Electrical: Batteries, Generators & Solar 6 26-02-2009 21:27
Boat Blueprint or Schematic? Wataman Construction, Maintenance & Refit 3 18-01-2009 04:08
Looking for Wiring Schematic for this Scenario KevinE Electrical: Batteries, Generators & Solar 10 22-11-2006 12:15

Advertise Here


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 04:02.


Google+
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Social Knowledge Networks
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.

ShowCase vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.