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Old 25-09-2018, 20:02   #1
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under contract!

We are under contract for a 2005 Lagoon 440 owners version. Other than the standing rigging what else would you be overly concerned at this age and model? Any surveyors you would recommend in the Key Largo area?

FYI engine hrs and Generator are all at about 4000 hrs.
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Old 25-09-2018, 21:08   #2
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Re: under contract!

We purchased our 2007 Lagoon 440 only five months ago. There are no inherent issues known with the 440 that I am aware of. They are a well built and good sailing vessel from Lagoon. In saying that there are things to look at that go with the age of the vessel. The main things we looked at were the following.( in no actual order of concern)

1) Rudder bearings
2) Engine servicing
3) Age and service left in sails
4) age and service left in batteries
5) "" "" "" solar panels and controllers ( we had 4 x 130 watt panels and old PWM controller which we upgraded to 4 x 300 watt panels and new MPPT controllers)
6) age of electronics. If original GPS, radar etc they may be usable but in reality old in modern day terms and require upgrading. (expensive to replace)
7) age of trampoline - does it need upgrading or replacement
8) age of anchor chain and service life left
9) suitability of current anchor ( we upgraded to a rocna)
10) age of liferaft if on vessel and is it still in survey
11) age and seviceability of tender and motor
12) Does it have enough refridgeration/freeser on board.
13) If generator on board is it serviceble
14) if water maker on board when was it last serviced and has it been pickled properly
15) When was lit last antifouled and what antifoul was used ( check so that if required a suitable antifoul can be overpainted)
16) Make sure you check saildrives oils for water intrusion, may require service and seal replacement ( relatively normal straight forward job).
17) All cushions and matresses are now getting on in age and may require replacement. This can be a costly excercise.

We were very fortunate in that most of electronics, batteries, cushions and sails had been replaced in the previous 12 months making a substantial cost saving for us. Hope this is of some assistance

Greg H
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Old 27-09-2018, 02:25   #3
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Re: under contract!

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The main things we looked at were the following.( in no actual order of concern)

Good list, to which you should add:


18) Standing rigging (about 10000 EUR). Some insurance company may not accept you if standing rigging older than 10 years.

19) Plumbing system. I replaced all 4 shower pumps, water pressure pump, washdown pump. Replacing waste tank hoses is a PITA, have a look at them, look for leaks/smell.

(I would remove 16 which is normal maintenance)
20) Water leaks: you may need to change lewmar hatches seals, lots of them, not cheap, no easy job.
21) lazybag & flybridge bimini




You don't say which engines you have. 4000h on yanmar 4JH4 is not much.
Running rigging you will replace gradually.



ah, just noticed you had 18) in mind already.


Excellent boat indeed, you cannot go wrong.
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Old 10-11-2018, 17:26   #4
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Re: under contract!

Thanks for the advice!

There was a lot to like about the boat and some major concerns.

1)The sail drives should to be replaced, they are working but show high levels of iron and copper in the oil samples.

2) the heat exchangers on the Yanmar 55s are corroded and should be replaced however the engine & generator oil analysis matched what the sellers claims for maintenance had been. Started and ran fine.

3) The sails are in good shape execpt for the stitching on the jib uv protection is coming out.

4) the port steering cable shoe (pulley) is froze in place and needs replaced.

We asked for and the seller agreed to a lot of seller credit ($$$$$)for these repairs. We will close next week.
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