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Old 19-12-2016, 05:09   #16
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Re: Shower pump electric protective time relay

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Seems like quite a touchy response towards a technical discussion.

..May all your problems be Lagoon related....
Well, now i know what that black button is for in my 1982 Cape Dory. I won't need to holler forward to have the Admiral turn on the pump soon as i figure out why it's not working.
We all learn something from these posts.
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Old 20-12-2016, 10:48   #17
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Re: Shower pump electric protective time relay

Coincidently our relay just started acting so I'll give Roetter's suggestion a go. Good relay timing!

Like most things in life, it may not be the best of systems, but it works and you get used to it. Ive no complaints on the Lagoon shower system apart from the very occasional failing parts.
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Old 20-12-2016, 13:23   #18
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Re: Shower pump electric protective time relay

Thanks for those suggestions which were helpful. Roetter's I believe has the best answer.

As it turned out, while I was carrying the part around to different yacht chandlery and electric supply stores, I think maybe the rust got knocked off the coil. At any rate, once I hooked it back up, the system began working.

Technicians at a reliable marine electric service company informed me that the ETA time relay is usually very reliable with noted exception that the coil inside tends to be the component that fails.

As a foot note, the large electric supply warehouse on Sint Maarten after making numerous calls to their suppliers and hours researching on the Internet were unable to locate a source. I too am unable to locate a source on the Internet.

There were several posts related to the design of the shower sump pump system as installed by Lagoon. Having lived with it now for going on ten months, the crew likes the system. To each their own I say.......Fair winds
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As a foot note, the large electric supply warehouse on Sint Maarten after making numerous calls to their suppliers and hours researching on the Internet were unable to locate a source. I too am unable to locate a source on the Internet.
Did you click on the link in post #7?
I've actually purchased relays from this UK company; price and delivery to Australia was reasonable and efficient.
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Old 20-12-2016, 16:39   #20
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Re: Shower pump electric protective time relay

Timer Relay 0.5s - 6hr



12V & 24V timer relays with adjustable timer control. This relay can be set to time between 0.5 seconds and 6 hours, so is suitable for numerous applications.


Just ordered a couple of these form Marks website suggestion in post #7

Timer Relay 0.5s - 6hr

Should be direct replacement and time adjustable. Will advise once fitted on how they work out. Should solve the short run time issue.
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Old 21-12-2016, 03:10   #21
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Thanks to Tuskie and PaulOZ for providing a source for this part. This was a tall hill to climb finding these.
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Re: Shower pump electric protective time relay

10 A is enough for this Relais ??

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Old 21-12-2016, 12:07   #23
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from Darksyde "10 A is enough for this Relais"

Yes

Recommended fuse size for Whale Gulper 320 pump is 10 amps, so 10 amp relay will be fine for this application.
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Re: Shower pump electric protective time relay

Throw out relay, put in a switch that you have to hold on to operate. "normally off"
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Re: Shower pump electric protective time relay

"Throw out relay, put in a switch that you have to hold on to operate. "normally off""

Call me strange but I prefer to have both hands free when in the shower. Maybe it depends how long and what you do in the shower I suppose.
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Re: Shower pump electric protective time relay

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"Throw out relay, put in a switch that you have to hold on to operate. "normally off""

Call me strange but I prefer to have both hands free when in the shower. Maybe it depends how long and what you do in the shower I suppose.
haha, yeah, but you don't need water to drain continuously. Get too much water, run the pump for a few seconds. I had two boats setup this way.
-no float switch
-no relay
-no sump collector box to smell or leak or crack or locate in some space you cant get to.
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Re: Shower pump electric protective time relay

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Timer Relay 0.5s - 6hr

Just ordered a couple of these form Marks website suggestion in post #7

Timer Relay 0.5s - 6hr

Should be direct replacement and time adjustable. Will advise once fitted on how they work out. Should solve the short run time issue.
Thanks. Might replace our new relay with this. 15 s isn't long enough to drain the water. I have to hit the switch a few times, I let it pool up a bit and make little swimming pool for my feet;-)

Is is IP rated for waterproof/resistant? Didn't see that on spec sheet
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"Is is IP rated for waterproof/resistant? Didn't see that on spec sheet"

NO

If it works all ok will mount in small plastic watertight box.
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Re: Shower pump electric protective time relay

2 x Adjustable 12 volt 10 amp Relay



arrived from AES UK took 8 days from shipment to arrival over Xmas.
Cost including freight to Oz
86.71 British pounds = $72 AUD each delivered.

Adjusted selector switch to 5 to 60 seconds range other dial to approx 3/4 range swapped for old relay and presto push button pump runs for 45 seconds and turns off.
Very happy wife so very happy life.
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Re: Shower pump electric protective time relay

Hi Paul,
I know this is an old thread but... would you happen to know where, physically, the relay is located. I have purchased those adjustable time relays and want to install them. I am particularly interested in the non-owners suite bathrooms
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