Originally Posted by Emerald Sea
I have been following along these threads with real enthusiam as I will be purchasing
a new L450 in a few months. The questions raised and discussions have been very interesting and have also formed my view on which options Im considering.
You have had your L450 for over a year now and I would like to ask if you would share your final selection, assessment of the choices you've made, lessons learned, etc. particularly around the generator
, solar panels
It would be a great follow up to this thread and good value to others, including myself.
You may not know, but our Lagoon
hit a reef and I have ordered a new on to be leaving the factory in September. See thread under NAVIGATION
. I am ordering the same options again. Below I am listing the main options and also the main things I don't order. Ask me if you want reasons for them. I try to give some in the text. I am at an airport
and have to rush. Most of the reasons I give also go for gonzemoi with his L450#132, ours was #130
- Comfort package
- no square top main sail. Easy handling in strong winds is essential, we are not racing
, if we are going too slow we start one engine
. The difference is only 1.5sqm if I remember right.
- spinnaker gear
- I rescued our gennaker
from Next Life
- no lazy bag (unless I hear they changed it) the material was sub standard. I had a lot of wear, even fully through the material within 4 months. Gonzemoi sailing with had another make of lazy bag and it still looked brand new after 10 months
- all electric
- 54 hp plus folding props
- no upgrade to the batteries, I will this time replace immediately with LiFePo, which will cost about $3500 for twice the usable capacity and much better high amps performance and faster charging
. We often had low voltage alarms(both boats) both of us installed voltage stabilizer for plotter at navstation as it rebooted often when using winches. Also had to run extra cable to nav station to supply more power.
- no air con. Gonzemoi has one for his small kids
. I am considering installing my own with a chiller in the engine
room and chilled water
to the four cabins. Nothing in the salon
. I would likely only install 24kBTU enough to make sleeping more comfortable during those few really hot and humid days.
- no generator, if I install then is will be a small one. Most likely a 2-3 kw DC one
- no factory solar
. Our two boats had 5 Kyocera
190 (950)W with an outback 80. We ran May to September without ever plugging in or using generator. New boat will get 1500W solar
. That should give me 600Ah in summer. That is as good as charging
6 hours at the full 100 amps from the factory charger
- no factor water
maker. Installed Spectra Newport
400 12V. Worked great. Uses much less power. Will do again.
- no microwave. That space is too precious to the ad,oral. Instead we had a small one for $120 in the corner on the starboard side under the hanging cabinets. Makes much more sense. Installed Ikea wire drawers in the cabinet over the stove
Other items I installed.
-Ssb, I had it and will probably not I stall again, unless we start cruising again long passages, which we do not plan for the next few years
- e7 plotter at nav station
- extra i70 at nav station, night watches done by single
person usually from inside the salon
. Just check outside ever so often for traffic. One I70 shows true wind
plus extra data, the other apparent wind
plus extra data
- P70 second autopilot
at nav station for night watches. The wireless remote
needs to be rebooted several times very day. Boats boats.
transponder. Really good. Big ships see you. You can call them directly. You will see other boats nearby. I often called other boats middle of the night that were going same direction and speed but out of sight. Once we hooked up with people we knew by email
only. Another time we were able to give each other valuable information. Also good when buddy boating
. You can even see when the other one catches a fish
3 miles away, or ask if something is wrong. We often got a late night call. "How are your sails
set? You are going faster than us"
LifeTag. When doing single
person night watches it makes things safer. We also carried on life vest aeros all AIS
and EPIRB alarm
- line to third reef luff point with extra rope clutch
. I am not going up the mast
in heavy weather
and risk a fall.
- line out to gennaker
sprit with clutch
on center beam. Again I am not leaning out over the water to hook up or even worse unhook gennaker in emergency
take down when weather
deteriorates. This way all work can be done safely on the trampoline
- Sterling battery-to-battery charger
. I found the regular alternator
setup only provided 13.2 V at the battery terminals. Even hours of motoring did not charge the batteries fully. Amps dropped quickly to 15 when batteries approached 85%SOC
- strong points and backing plates
at aft mooring cleats
. The strong points are for storm drogue
. The backing plates
because we saw the cleats
moving when our two cats were rafted at anchor
and a power boat
threw us some waves. We also had a lot of cracks i. The gelcoat
around the cleats. Gonzemoi last week use them to pull a boat off a sand bank in the Bahamas
. He was really happy I designed them for us.
- tri-color mast head navigation
lights. Was a must for crossing with the ARC
but we used them all the time as the other ones reflect a lot off the bow stations. Very annoying at night.
- Parasailor. The easiest way to run downwind. We fly it without the main. My wife has not problems using it overnight when the two of us sail alone. It just tends itself.
- Victron Multi with remote
. The Power boost is great to take peaks. gonzemoi runs his air con with a 6Kw generator plus a Quattro. Also starts a Bauer Junior with it.
- Victron battery monitor
Will not have my boat commissioned by specific company. Send private message if you want to know.