42: Order New Lagoon 42

[Matagorda]

Hi Steve

She is tied up next to the Yacht Sales office at Watergate Yachting Center, after arriving from Fort Lauderdale last week.

There is a preview showing this weekend (tomorrow), and she will be on display at the Southwest boat show at SouthShore Harbor the following weekend.

Well worth a drive down from Austin.

As far as I know, this one has not been sold, but I can't say for sure without checking with the dealer.

Cheers

[Steve_C]

Originally Posted by Matagorda

Hi Steve

She is tied up next to the Yacht Sales office at Watergate Yachting Center, after arriving from Fort Lauderdale last week.

There is a preview showing this weekend (tomorrow), and she will be on display at the Southwest boat show at SouthShore Harbor the following weekend.

Well worth a drive down from Austin.

As far as I know, this one has not been sold, but I can't say for sure without checking with the dealer.

Cheers

Can't wait

[Steve_C]

I drove down to Clear Lake yesterday and spent some time aboard. Apparently its the only one available this year anywhere. I was very impressed, unfortunately I am a year or two out before a purchase. They have done a nice job with refinements and its certainly near the top of my list.

[Matagorda]

Hi Steve

Yes, I fell in love with with the 42 at first sight. Ticks almost every box for me.


The factory have apparently sold over 100 now, so should be a very popular model.


Cheers

[sailnow2011]

I can't believe how many still order a lagoon new with all the major issues they have been having. There are better choices in cats for the money. FP for one.

[DeepCut]

Originally Posted by sailnow2011

I can't believe how many still order a lagoon new with all the major issues they have been having. There are better choices in cats for the money. FP for one.

Your Opinion: obviously differs from many others who likely looked at FP and others .

[sailnow2011]

Originally Posted by DeepCut

Your Opinion: obviously differs from many others who likely looked at FP and others .

How many others are marine surveyors?
I sugest you look at the sinking of the lagoon 500 for a rare look into how the boat is assembled. Glue and foam are a common theme, as is a design with no watertight bulkheads.
http://www.lagoonlitigation.com/acci.../the-accident/

[warren460]

Originally Posted by sailnow2011

How many others are marine surveyors?
I sugest you look at the sinking of the lagoon 500 for a rare look into how the boat is assembled. Glue and foam are a common theme, as is a design with no watertight bulkheads.
The Accident » Lagoon Litigation

Ouch!!

But I really doubt that fp is much better.

[arsenelupiga]

Originally Posted by sailnow2011

How many others are marine surveyors?
I sugest you look at the sinking of the lagoon 500 for a rare look into how the boat is assembled. Glue and foam are a common theme, as is a design with no watertight bulkheads.
The Accident » Lagoon Litigation

that is real issue. Pics of couple of lagoons circulate internet that inverted and stern submerged.

I think one should have ability to add buoyancy, using tyre tubes for example, just in case, before storm and deploy to back bedrooms etc. With 70 l per minute 12 v pumps, cheap life insurance.

Mine appears done correctly but can be sure only if boat flipped. Forward one is fine.

[gspeak]

Originally Posted by sailnow2011

How many others are marine surveyors?
I sugest you look at the sinking of the lagoon 500 for a rare look into how the boat is assembled. Glue and foam are a common theme, as is a design with no watertight bulkheads.
http://www.lagoonlitigation.com/acci.../the-accident/

I suggest you look at many more production boats, both mono & multi, & maybe even power boats & report how unsinkable they all are & how true they are to their marketing drivel before carrying on about one manufacturer.


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[sailnow2011]

Originally Posted by gspeak

I suggest you look at many more production boats, both mono & multi, & maybe even power boats & report how unsinkable they all are & how true they are to their marketing drivel before carrying on about one manufacturer.


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I have a list of boats to not buy, lagoon cats are one.
Its really a theme for the company. I have seen bilge pumps, routed to shower drains. All sorts of odd things on them. Honestly if they made a watertight bulkhead on each engine room, and added some floatation foam aft, they would be 1/4 of the way to good. I would also like to see floatation foam in between the hull and liner, and for them to install proper flanged seacocks.

[Saltrun]

I think that you should absolutely Not buy a Lagoon, you would not be happy at all. But, to be fair, the quality of the Fountain Pajot boats are not as good as Lagoon. The last two years, we saw the FP44 and now this year the new 40 FP, and the fiberglass was so thin you could see the cloth print through the gelcoat. Perhaps it was just the ones we saw, new boats at the Miami boatshow, but until recently,we too were convinced the Pajots were the choice for us. We changed our minds. In the end, it is up to each individual to spend their money where they see fit, and live with the good and the bad. No boat is perfect, and often spending a great deal more, does not necessarily remedy this problem. Good luck to you, in your boat quest. I promise to be a gentleman and compliment your Pajot, if you do the same to my Lagoon!
Chris S/V Saltrun

[boatman61]

Originally Posted by Matagorda

Hi DeepCut

Which delivery option did you go for? We are still tossing up between a skippered delivery across the Atlantic Vs the high cost of marine freight on a container vessel. A Lagoon 450 was delivered to Texas last year on her own bottom with 500 hours on the Yanmars. Not sure how they managed to fit in so much motoring but it seems like a lot of early wear and tear on the boat before handover.

Methinks the owners picked a very bad delivery skipper/company.. object to earn as much as possible in as short a time as possible at the owners cost..

If we go for a skippered delivery on our boat in winter there may be a few storms about in the Bay of Biscay, but probably better than your situation with hurricanes brewing in the Caribbean in July.

Best all round time to aim for would be a September/early October departure (later means heavier weather and much smaller windows) from Les Sables/Rochelle... the Biscay bit just needs a 2 day window to reach N Spain then its downhill to the Canaries, Cape Verdes and across..

Another question for you:

Last week, we had had a good look over the 42 (the one from Miami show, and in the video) which is now at Clear Lake, Texas. After crawling all over it, we have adjusted our thinking on some of the options selected. How much time did the factory give you before their 'drop dead' date on locking in options?

Cheers

Best wishes with your dreams...

[rourkeh]

You guys buying new lagoon don't hit anything with it.
They had a brand new 44' (I think) in the yard in Tortola that the owner took out on maiden voyage and ran aground on some rocks. He punched a hole in port side hull about eight feet wide. You could read the newspaper through the laminate it was so thin, and I have never seen so may voids in the layup as this boat. More than 50% of the laminate was not wetted out with resin and was completely dry. If this is the norm for their quality control I would be VERY scared of the structural integrity of there hulls.
Just sayin.

[Steve_C]

I wonder if its possible to have a thread about a new Lagoon without the "Lagoon Bashers" showing up? All boats have things that I would alter to my tastes, I still intend to purchase one. Like ANY vessel I would purchase I intend to have it surveyed before acceptance. All high volume production vessels can and will have issues. I will do my best to avoid running it aground or hitting rocks.

This thread is NOT about that. I guess discussions about Lagoons are like any topic that mentions;

Cat vs Mono
Best Anchor
Best anti-fouling paint
etc..