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Old 03-04-2019, 05:54   #1
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Lagoon Windows

Just in case anyone is interested: My Lagoon 450 came with an annoying 'scrape' on one of the bedroom windows. Essentially the 'transfer' that covers one bedroom window had at some time been scraped back maybe as long as your thumb. Nothing terrible, but I like my boat to be pristine and so this has always bugged me. Anyway, from new my Lagoon has also had vinyl wrapped hulls. Time has come to remove and replace these as the sun, salt, sea and fenders etc. have taken a little toll and like I said, I like my boat to be pristine.
I got a quote on replacing the vinyl wrap and at the same time getting the lower bedroom windows 'transfers' replaced too (and all the salon windows tinted at the same time as it happens).
That brings me to the reason for this post.
If anyone else is ever in need of removing the window 'treatment' "dot transfer/sticker" on your Lagoon then here's some advice. Firstly do not believe anyone who says the windows are glass, they are not. A few people told me this but I had my doubts and had a specialist check and no they are not. That means if you use a blade or scraper be very careful. (We used what's called an American Blade which has rounded corners and will not scratch unless you go crazy.) Also, do not bother trying to use adhesive removers to initially remove the 'transfer'. You will need one of these chemicals later but initially they will do nothing.
What you do need is a heat gun. We used an industrial hand held one set to around 470 degrees. The other thing that will help is a second pare of hands: one to use the gun the other to carefully lift the edge with the aforementioned American Blade.


If you are so inclined, using this method you can in fact remove the entire "transfer' in one piece, but that is just showing off. (we did it for the last window just to see if we could...and you can). Once the transfer is off your window will still be covered in a fair amount of adhesive. Some people will say use acetone but I cocked with a specialist and they said the safer bet is a special acrylic/plexiglass adhesive remover. We used a spray on version FORCH R581 (to my untrained nose it smelled like Mineral Turpentine). I can offer no warranties of the long term effect on the window but initially it seems fine and the 'specialist' promised no long term clouding or crazing. It does take several applications, a lot of rubbing and elbow grease but we managed to end up with clear, glue free windows.
Next week, the new 'transfers' will be applied. (You can buy them from Lagoon but our guy here in Croatia has the pattern/template and vinyl prints them himself)
Anyway hope that helps if anyone has the need.


P.S. Also for anyone interested the Gelcoat under the vinyl wrap (which is coming up to five years old) looks absolutely brand new. And the quote for wrap and windows including application of same is 2700 euro.
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Old 06-04-2019, 12:19   #2
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Hi bd, are you going to keep this going and shows us the wrap install? I've got it pencilled in for the coming winter if I can get it done in Turkey.
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Re: Lagoon Windows

We removed one aft, it was a lot of work. But we wanted to have a nice view from the cabin instead of the white thing...

The other 3 will have to wait when we are on the hard again and have some time left for other projects... We hate the white things on the windows, the glue becomes more intransparent over time, so they get more useless...

I would never re apply the sticker back.
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Old 06-04-2019, 12:56   #4
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I likely am showing my ignorance but what is the purpose(s) of the vinyl wrapping?
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I likely am showing my ignorance but what is the purpose(s) of the vinyl wrapping?
I assume, to keep the sun out of the cabin, but have natural light. The newer Lagoons have cler windows, so I guess, people dont like it.
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1. keep gelcoat below like new
2. cheaply change the colour of the boat
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Old 06-04-2019, 23:44   #7
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Hi Dave, Yes I lift the boat in 3 days and it should take a day or two to do the new wrap of the hulls (I am also having the salon windows tinted deeper black). I am using a new superior brand vinyl this time (they have improved over the past 4 years). This one can be regularly polished and has a much longer warranty on colour fastness. Having said that the previous brand stayed really strong in colour terms for the first three and a bit years then faded a touch (the 'green' component of the 'gold' became more dominant,) then late last year it faded considerably to almost grey/green/silver (depending on the light). As I mentioned the gelcoat underneath is still in 'as new' pristine condition so even as just a protection procedure it is well worth it in my opinion.
I will try and photo the process and post them.
As for the bedroom windows, I may switch to just a deep black tint or go with the traditional lagoon style dots but in black to help shade the interior. Oh and the few scratches on the bedroom windows polished off entirely which was very satisfying. (started with 320grit - deepest scratch - then 500 then 800, 1000, 1500 and 3000 followed by a paste - took 20 minutes.)
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I'm going to do the windows in a black tint too. Don't forget the outside rim of the window must be protected from the sun. I've heard of windows falling out!
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Yes indeed. I like the look of the all black window and surrounds too.
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I'm waiting for one of you to try this:

https://www.smarttint.com

https://www.smarttint.com/#colors



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