450: Lagoon 450 replacement in 2018/2019?

[d95sld95]

Does anyone have information on when and if the Lagoon 450 line is going to be replaced by a new model? I am thinking its due, but then again the manufacture is crazy busy these days and may be more inclined to push as many 450's through the production line as possible and cash in.

Anyhow, if you know or have heard anything about the 450 replacement then I would love to hear.

[PaulinOz]

I know they are selling L450's with production slots in 2019. Thinking its there next Classic in L380 vain.

[EvilRabbit]

Following, very keen on an updated 450F

Originally Posted by d95sld95

Does anyone have information on when and if the Lagoon 450 line is going to be replaced by a new model? I am thinking its due, but then again the manufacture is crazy busy these days and may be more inclined to push as many 450's through the production line as possible and cash in.

Anyhow, if you know or have heard anything about the 450 replacement then I would love to hear.

[rom]

Originally Posted by EvilRabbit

Following, very keen on an updated 450F

Well ... don't be too excited this is actually your last chance to buy a good 45 footer new from lagoon. The next one will weight 20 metric tons.

[EvilRabbit]

Is that an assumption or from some design spec? New 50’ is 20t so assume a new 45 to be at 16t

Originally Posted by rom

Well ... don't be too excited this is actually your last chance to buy a good 45 footer new from lagoon. The next one will weight 20 metric tons.

[rom]

Originally Posted by EvilRabbit

Is that an assumption or from some design spec? New 50’ is 20t so assume a new 45 to be at 16t

Sorry that was me being ironic. Well, the 50 is actually 14.75m and weights 21 tons. The current L450 is 14m and weights 15.5 tons. Quite obviously they cannot make the 450 much bigger as the 50 is not far. Hopefully they will stick to those dimensions and only do minor refinements.

[Valiente]

Originally Posted by rom

. Well, the 50 is actually 14.75m and weights 21 tons. The current L450 is 14m and weights 15.5 tons. .

Thats why i am eager to hear unbiased reviews of L50 actual sailing performance compared to L450!

[Ruffriders]

Following

[Valiente]

Originally Posted by rom

Well ... don't be too excited this is actually your last chance to buy a good 45 footer new from lagoon. The next one will weight 20 metric tons.

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[Ruffriders]

Anyone have the option list with prices? And base msrp for both 450’s

[rallyman1122]

Originally Posted by Ruffriders

Anyone have the option list with prices? And base msrp for both 450’s

I have one from Mar of 2017. Send me a PM and I will forward it to you

[Emerald Sea]

Not anytime soon! Lagoon have put a second production line on for the 450 due to demand which is approaching 2020 now. It took some effort to get it manned, staff trained with many coming from the Beneteau assembly line. Its a great boat, very reliable (at least the hull, superstructure and assembly), respectable performance, spacious. They may make some small innovations but not likely any major revisions soon.

I certainly didn't like the revised interior layout in 2016 but most disappointing was replacing the mast with single shrouds from the previous dual shrouds. 2 is better than 1 - redundancy is preferred.

[tuskie]

Originally Posted by Emerald Sea

Not anytime soon! Lagoon have put a second production line on for the 450 due to demand which is approaching 2020 now. It took some effort to get it manned, staff trained with many coming from the Beneteau assembly line. Its a great boat, very reliable (at least the hull, superstructure and assembly), respectable performance, spacious. They may make some small innovations but not likely any major revisions soon.

I certainly didn't like the revised interior layout in 2016 but most disappointing was replacing the mast with single shrouds from the previous dual shrouds. 2 is better than 1 - redundancy is preferred.

I agree with your sentiments regarding the 450. When you're on a good thing, stick to it!

I'm not sure about the "2 shrouds being better than one" logic. If one of your shrouds breaks the remaining one will be very unlikely to hold on its own. The mast will come down. And there's twice as much chance of one breaking if you have two shrouds on each side.

Moral of the story; don't break shrouds.

[Emerald Sea]

Originally Posted by tuskie

I'm not sure about the "2 shrouds being better than one" logic. If one of your shrouds breaks the remaining one will be very unlikely to hold on its own. The mast will come down. And there's twice as much chance of one breaking if you have two shrouds on each side.

Sorry Tuskie, but that doesn't stand to reason. Im a mechanical engineer and while I would agree in a failure mode that if one breaks it may all come down, but in a stability and structural support mode, two is better than one!

[c-reel]

What is the reasoning beyond the change from 2 to 1 ? Can't be only a cost driven decision. Especially as it seems the Rig has been modified and there is a new front shroud which wasn't there before (attachment on mast in front of the boom).
Easier manufacturing? A bit extreme change. They hopefully have gone through some analysis to get the rig as robust - if not more than before.

I also feel 2 is better than one, but i'm not a mechanical engineer and know nothing about rigging. So quite curious on this.

Originally Posted by Emerald Sea

Sorry Tuskie, but that doesn't stand to reason. Im a mechanical engineer and while I would agree in a failure mode that if one breaks it may all come down, but in a stability and structural support mode, two is better than one!