I had the opportunity to sail for couple of days on a new 450 and just wanted to share my views for those who are interested in this boat..
(I am not selling a boat, hence, I will try to be as candid as possible)
The first thing that strikes is the exceptionally high boom to give a space to flying bridge. Handling the main sail is a real task, I am 6ft 4 and quite fit but climbing up to the level of the mainsail
sheet was scary to say the least. However, the constructor and designer
must be aware of the difficulty, hence, they have couple of a system that keeps you from doing this exercise often:
-if the main is stacked somewhere, there is a line which comes from the top of the sail to the helm
, pull it and it's over..
-the reef positions are installed and ready on the sail. All you need to do is to winch
the two lines. (I don't think you will need often reefing anyway. See below sailing..)
-The only real problem is to pack the sail when you are not using it. Then you need to climb to the mast
, fall in and crawl inside the lazy bag and work it out.
The finish is acceptable for this size and make. The layout of the boat and the space you get is the best part of it. Lagoon
has always been good at this department and the 450 is no exception.
The one I tried had 2X54 HP Yanmars, felex-o-fold 3 blade
folding props and at 2500 rpm
flat sea gave us 8-8,1 kts. At 2.100-2.200 that would be around 7-7,2 kts. The engines are quite, particularly if you are sitting on the flying bridge. Manoeuvrability of the boat is good and although Lagoon
has put a rear camera
that you can watch from the chart plotter on the flying bridge, there really is no need for it.
Sailing... Well there is actually where the problems start. The boat is around 18 tons (as opposed to 10 tons of Orana
44) and yet the sail area is significantly smaller. Nevertheless, the boat sailed much better than I'd expected ; 17-18 true, we did around 6-6,5 kts at 50-60 degrees. Below 10-11 kts of true and w/out spinneaker it's not worthed to try to sail. When we took the wind
from the aft beam, we did 7-7,3 with the same wind
force. The boat was handling perfectly small swells and sitting on the flying bridge under these conditions is exceptional.
I cannot immagine however to sit there when the conditions are bumpy, cold and with the wind on yr nose. (You have a chart plotter replicator and remote
control auto pilote inside)
Overall, it was a very different experience after sailing all of the FP range and being for the first time on the Lagoon; these are simply two different concepts. If you are chartering or making mostly coastal sailing and in good weather
conditions, Lagoon seems to be a better option, too much space to lay down, flying bridge, etc. If you are a keen sailor, then maybe not. The handling of Lagoons under sail is a bit chaotic; hundreds of lines running everywhere, electrical winch
switches under feet, plenty of steps everywhere. I wouldn't like to be on this boat on nasty weather
and at night, particularly with short and/or uncompetent crew.
Appearance is a matter of taste, but FP range seems to me better looking as well. Pricewise, Lagoons and FP's are pretty close to each other.
I think Lagoon has also a longer list of options that will suit everyone's taste.