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21-04-2009, 17:17
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#226
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2008
Boat: Lagoon 440 - Agape'
Posts: 55
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sail4evr,
It was almost exactly what Lagoon charges for the ICW rig option - about $7,000.
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23-04-2009, 09:46
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#227
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Senior Cruiser
Join Date: May 2008
Location: near Annapolis
Boat: PDQ 36 & Atlantic 42
Posts: 1,178
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Dockhead: your generous later responses are leading me to revise a statement I've made in the past: "Catophobia can not be cured with facts", but so far you are the exception that proves the rule!
Try sailing a cat again, you may find it LESS exciting than driving a good monohull thru the same conditions. In my club there are crews that think my boat is boring, even though we get there first. They prefer to feel like they've earned the miles they've covered.
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23-04-2009, 10:14
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#228
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Moderator
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Denmark (Winter), Helsinki (Summer); Cruising the Baltic Sea this year!
Boat: Cutter-Rigged Moody 54
Posts: 33,750
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sandy daugherty
Dockhead: your generous later responses are leading me to revise a statement I've made in the past: "Catophobia can not be cured with facts", but so far you are the exception that proves the rule!
Try sailing a cat again, you may find it LESS exciting than driving a good monohull thru the same conditions. In my club there are crews that think my boat is boring, even though we get there first. They prefer to feel like they've earned the miles they've covered.
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Thanks, I will, if someone invites me! One big mistake I made was certainly being the skipper and helmsman myself first time out on a cat. Next time I'll be crew only, grind winches, and observe someone with experience.
As to being less exciting than driving a mono -- I will agree with you that less exciting is better. If you respect the awesome power and majesty of the ocean as you should, you never want anything at sea to be any more exciting than it has to be.
Cheers and Fair Winds, DH
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23-04-2009, 10:48
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#229
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Eternal Member
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Las Brisas Panama AGAIN!
Boat: Simpson, Catamaran, 46ft. IMAGINE
Posts: 4,507
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Sandy,
That reminds me of a story. I took a mono racer sailing on Biscayne Bay. We were close on the wind doing over 9 knots. Sitting in the cockpit with Heinekins sitting upright by themselves, and the boat steering on auto. He looks around, and says to me "You're not earning it!". Meaning to say it was toooooo eeeeaaaassssyyyyy, but he was no longer a naysayer to multis......lololololol.......i2f
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23-04-2009, 10:54
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#230
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CF Adviser
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Wherever our boat is; Playa Zaragoza, Isla Margarita
Boat: 1994 Solaris Sunstream 40
Posts: 2,449
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Dockhead, I'm with Sandy on his post concerning your later comments - you were obviously prepared to read some statistics, ponder some other opinions and then to reconsider your own. An open mind is a rarity precisely because it is difficult for any of us to set aside our own biases, prejudices and experience. And as to the last sentence in your most recent post - it was well written and beyond dispute to any of us who have logged more than a few miles under our keels (or boards).
Cheers and fair winds indeed!
Brad
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23-04-2009, 11:23
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#231
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: BVIs
Boat: Lagoon 440, Sea Of Love
Posts: 141
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Welll! Let's not get to carried away. There is something special about feeling a monohull settle into a groove as she beats to windward in 15 kn of breeze. Feeling the boat accelerate as she picks up the breeze. Heeling never bothered me that much. I don't get much of that on my cat. I do miss it sometimes. Granted I will go faster on my cat, but I wouldn't call it particularly responsive. Kind of like driving a car vs bus. Don't get me wrong, it's just I am driving my house around. It's not a greyhound. But you can't live in my opinion comfortably on a greyhound. If I was just daysailing, wed night races, sailing across to Louie's for drinks and dinner, my mono was just fine. But I got this bug to live the rest of my life on a cat in the islands. Se la vie!
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23-04-2009, 13:13
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#232
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CF Adviser
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Wherever our boat is; Playa Zaragoza, Isla Margarita
Boat: 1994 Solaris Sunstream 40
Posts: 2,449
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sail4ever, I don't think the discussion centered around whether sailing is more fun on a cat than a mono - we were talking about safety. For whatever its worth, however, I tend to agree with you: I still prefer the feel of a well-balance monohull sailing to windward over the feel of a cat on the same point of sail.
Brad
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23-04-2009, 13:24
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#233
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: BVIs
Boat: Lagoon 440, Sea Of Love
Posts: 141
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Sorry Brad, I was just reminiscing
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07-02-2010, 06:30
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#234
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Mediterenian
Boat: Lagoon 440 , 2009 / Lagoon Power Cat 44
Posts: 36
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just bought a lagoon Power 44
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07-02-2010, 07:13
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#235
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: BVIs
Boat: Lagoon 440, Sea Of Love
Posts: 141
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power cat
I'm speechless
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07-02-2010, 07:15
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#236
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Mediterenian
Boat: Lagoon 440 , 2009 / Lagoon Power Cat 44
Posts: 36
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and why is that ??
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07-02-2010, 07:28
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#237
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: BVIs
Boat: Lagoon 440, Sea Of Love
Posts: 141
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2 Lagoons, sail & power, cost of fuel, split personality, Dr Jekyl & Mr. Hyde. :-)
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07-02-2010, 07:31
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#238
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Mediterenian
Boat: Lagoon 440 , 2009 / Lagoon Power Cat 44
Posts: 36
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well that is real fun !! cost of fuel does not scare me but the ability to move fast and get
into Europa's rivers and canals does excite me so....
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07-02-2010, 07:34
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#239
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: BVIs
Boat: Lagoon 440, Sea Of Love
Posts: 141
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Well I'll never be able to afford 2 boats, so good luck to you.
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07-02-2010, 07:40
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#240
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Mediterenian
Boat: Lagoon 440 , 2009 / Lagoon Power Cat 44
Posts: 36
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thanks !
and...... never say never !!! :-)
I am a severe handicap and last summer sailed around the med alone with my wife making a bit over 5000 NM. everyone was skeptical but !! we made it .
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