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Old 05-03-2007, 02:08   #31
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Old 06-05-2007, 09:47   #32
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I'd highly doubt that you can UNLOCK the hatch from OUTSIDE.
You should be able to and this is a CE requirement that all French builders adhere to. My Belize 43 have escape hatches in the heads and a custom fitted aluminium bar connects over the opening handles. This is held down by gravity and if the boat should go belly up this will fall down and the outside handles can be used.

This system allows for locking mechanism to prevent intrusion under normal sircumstances but allows entry if flipped without doing any prior actions to allo for re-entry.

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Yeah, actually moreso. Just forget about righting her.
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Old 24-12-2015, 16:44   #35
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Over 8.5 years! This might be a record for reopening a thread!

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Extremely interesting...I was on that boat.

9 year anniversary just a few days ago, has never left me.

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Old 22-02-2016, 16:01   #37
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Welcomed to the forum Kevin.
A tragic event, I remember seeing a documentary on this and other similar events.
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You saw the BBC interview, that was the only reporting that I felt did our story justice.
I think of Steve a lot, we became very good friends over those 2 months together. We had made plans to do another delivery after that one. A very good man.



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Extremely interesting...I was on that boat.

9 year anniversary just a few days ago, has never left me.

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It is an old thread but new information, that is if you have something to add to what had been said on the thread regarding the accident.

Being on that boat you have certainly a privileged view about the accident and what happened, even if I bet that you would have gladly skip that privilege
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hope for some comment I am preparing my boat for capsize scenario...

Can see upturned cat is stable and floats well for months, based on several recent pics.

My idea is if seas are overwhelming, simply go in owner hull, prepare <to be completed> for capsize, and relax. Capsize may be bumpy but after that plan B should kick in.

You were all outside. Why didnt you go inside hulls ? Even if escape hatch not open and cant be broken, diving and entering via main door should not be such an issue, considering alternatives...

Or it was not floating that well ?
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hope for some comment I am preparing my boat for capsize scenario...

Can see upturned cat is stable and floats well for months, based on several recent pics.

My idea is if seas are overwhelming, simply go in owner hull, prepare <to be completed> for capsize, and relax. Capsize may be bumpy but after that plan B should kick in.

You were all outside. Why didnt you go inside hulls ? Even if escape hatch not open and cant be broken, diving and entering via main door should not be such an issue, considering alternatives...

Or it was not floating that well ?
If sea's were 30ft as reported I think that would have been a recipe for dying fast.. I've been banged on the head by a hull while diving a fouled prop in a 'Calm' sea with swell.. and that stunned me.
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I figured that there would be some questions and I'll do the best I can because I feel there is some information here. Can't do it all at once don't have enough time to write a report all at once but can piece meal it.

I have waited this long because it was a tragedy of the loss of Steve Hobley a man that was a wonderful father of two, became a grandfather AS we were crossing the Atlantic and had become a dear friend of mine. I have done a few TV interviews on this in the past closer to the date of the accident then felt that I had to move on with life.

Sailing has been a large part of my life and now I am starting the next part of my life's adventure. My wife and two boys are in the process of selling everything and buying a boat and sailing off (push off date summer 2017).

As for questions posed so far the waves (according to my guess and confirmed by speaking with the commander of the CG helicopter) the waves were 35-45' with an extra biggie every now and then.

I was down in the port forward cabin when we flipped. I obviously didn't see what Exactly happened but from talking with Ole (the other crew that survived) it was a combination pitch pole and push over. We were surfing down the waves under bare poles at 23kt. When we rolled the waves were a very steep short period 45' breakers, everywhere. I felt the speed the angle down the wave and two bangs, first in front then in back. The second one in the back was huge.
So I believe we hit the back of the wave in front while simultaneously being rolled over by a breaker on own starboard quarter, the amount of water falling down the face of the wave and the speed at which the came was for a lack of a better description was impressive. A 4 story building collapsing down on itself.

It happened so fast that before the roll was complete the boat was flooded up to my lower chest. Panicking we believed that the boat was going to go down so we went out the escape hatch.

Going back inside was throughly thought about but was impossible because of a few thing.
if you decide to go outside (as we thought the boat was going to the bottom, fast) the air escapes for the boat and settles further down in the water.

Remember we are still in 45' breaking seas with 20 minutes of light left. The waves broke over the boat like it was a beach with 15-20 second frequency.
Also the boat orientated itself stern-to the waves so there was a constant explosion of water coming from where the hatches were. The weight of the engines pulled the sterns down deep in the water and the bows rose. The hatches were basically not an option but one which i wish we had.

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Thanks for this Rovin..
Its good to get some real life info and experience on this.. for while there is a lot of Theory spouted on here about these situations.. remarkably few survive these type of conditions to lay out some facts about the event and what was truly possible..
as opposed to just what the 'salesmen' say..
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No problem.

I know what you are saying and there is a lot of misinformation. There were things we did right and things we did wrong, I hope to get them out so they don"t happen again or maybe give some insight to what might be a better plan of action.

To answer your answer straight forward the situation was so out of control so fast with such violence that thinking wasn't an option you had right away. Took sometime to gather thoughts and figure out how not to die.

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No problem.

I know what you are saying and there is a lot of misinformation. There were things we did right and things we did wrong, I hope to get them out so they don"t happen again or maybe give some insight to what might be a better plan of action.

To answer your answer straight forward the situation was so out of control so fast with such violence that thinking wasn't an option you had right away. Took sometime to gather thoughts and figure out how not to die.

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Know exactly what your saying..
Its what I call a 'Black Ice' moment.. but on water.. its right down to basic instincts.. thought follows further down the line..
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