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Old 16-01-2019, 12:13   #1
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Help/Warning Eno oven is worst

I am fed up with the cheap and dangerous evo Eno oven in my galley. What have other owners replaced their oven with or researched replacing it with? My captain is extremely handy, so modifications are not an issue. I need to replace it and would like to stick with gas, as thatís my preferred method of cooking. Warning lagoon owners, after using the broiler several times without issue, the flame suddenly went off, and the kitchen filled with gas!!! This has been an issue Iíve heard about from others too
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Old 16-01-2019, 13:02   #2
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Hello, mary9,

Sounds like a thermocouple failure. Buy a new one and put it in.

If you really are keen to have a whole new stove/oven combination, there are some very nice ones available out of Europe. Try Googling on marine stoves. Our own decision was a new Force 10 3 burner. It is hard to keep clean (lots of sharp, square corners), but it cooks okay. We've only had it a few months, and so far, it has done everything asked of it. However, we would like it better if at least one of its two small burners were a bit larger.

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Old 16-01-2019, 13:22   #3
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I guess you're referring to ENO, a French Brand for gas stoves? Or is this a Knockoff like Adisas shoes?
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Yes, I meant Eno but this is my first post and having issues with figuring out the editing.
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The Force 10 is the same company as Eno so we are trying to stay away.
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I put a Dickenson in my last boat and it worked great, though the burner ignitors had crappy wiring. Mechanically it was great and never gave issues though. I would buy another.
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Iíve had my 2 burner Force-10 stove/oven now for over five years. Zero problems so far. We are full-timers for about 1/2 of each year. When on board we use the stove constantly, including a fair bit of baking.

I understand Eno took over Force-10, or vice versa. Seems like theyíre maintaining the different lines though. Maybe the different lines are built to different quality standards/price points?

As Ann said, if your issue is only the one you mention, then it sounds like a simple swap of the thermocouple would solve the problem.
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Re: Help/Warning Eno oven is worst

Looking at the picture posted, the stove isn't a typical gimballed marine stove. I wonder if it is one that is intended for RV use or such and does not have thermocouple safety devices on all the burners?

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Re: Help/Warning Eno oven is worst

Hi, again, mary9,

Here is a link to a manufacturer who might have something you'd like: https://www.gn-espace.com/yacht-gall...e-gas-cookers/

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The stove is simply an appliance, as with any appliance it should be regularly monitored when in use and requires maintenance when something fails. If the overall performance is not to your liking then source a new one from a different manufacturer, but really, is it correct to make the claim that you have without at least an attempt at repairing the apparent failure?
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Been using our TAYLORS 030 KERO since 2005. Simply love OLD SCHOOL items. Safety is paramount with us, the rest is icing.
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This is interesting, I've got an old Luke Heritage, a hand built stove/oven made around 1980 by Paul Luke & Co, boatbuilders in Maine. The original propane burners don't have thermocouples. On my to do list this year is to replace the burners with modern Force 10's with thermocouples. I'm rethinking this now if ENO makes burners for Force 10. I would think if the thermocouple goes out the burner wouldn't work, otherwise what is the point? This isn't something I would put on my maintenance checklist.
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This is interesting, I've got an old Luke Heritage, a hand built stove/oven made around 1980 by Paul Luke & Co, boatbuilders in Maine. The original propane burners don't have thermocouples. On my to do list this year is to replace the burners with modern Force 10's with thermocouples. I'm rethinking this now if ENO makes burners for Force 10. I would think if the thermocouple goes out the burner wouldn't work, otherwise what is the point? This isn't something I would put on my maintenance checklist.
Force ten burners have conventional thermocouple driven safety valves. These things, when heated by the flame, generate a small electrical current. That current in turn opens the gas valve, enabling the burner. If the flame goes out, the electric current goes away and the valve reverts to its normal closed position, cutting off the gas flow. I don't believe that ANY current propane marine stoves lack this feature.

So, your understanding of the system is correct, and I surely applaud the plan to install the new burners. I'd be scared to death of your current set up.

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Looking at the picture posted, the stove isn't a typical gimballed marine stove. I wonder if it is one that is intended for RV use or such and does not have thermocouple safety devices on all the burners?

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According to the manual, it meets Euro/German Certifications, so that's very unlikely.

I guess the thing is either broken or working perfectly fine. Some gas smell is to be expected if the flame goes out. Also, it is possible to extinguish only part of the flame. Can't tell from afar. Get it tested by somebody qualified.
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Looking at the picture posted, the stove isn't a typical gimballed marine stove. I wonder if it is one that is intended for RV use or such and does not have thermocouple safety devices on all the burners?

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Unlikely, Jim - the pic looks a typical catamaran installation. All recent boats I've delivered from France (Lagoons, Catana Balis etc) have Eno stoves/top burners and all are fitted with thermocouples.


I must admit that my heart sinks a bit when I see them: I have found that the ovens never get as hot as they should and the placing of the top burners can be awkward unless you've been careful with buying pots and pans to fit!


All rather surprising as the French are supposed to pride themselves on their culinary abilities...


Didn't know they had been taken over (or have themselves taken over) Force 10. They must be keeping the brands separate - I've always been happy with Force 10s!

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