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Old 06-10-2016, 02:51   #16
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Re: faster mainsail dropping? Reefing mod?

The long gap between the luff cars allows the main catch wind when lowering. I was considering intermediate cars, at least two to be attached to my main. Any one done this or have thoughts on this idea. As for the reefing lines I now just toss them in the lazy bag.

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Old 06-10-2016, 02:56   #17
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Re: faster mainsail dropping? Reefing mod?

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Greetings 450 owners. Just took delivery of a '15 450 in Houston. Great boat as we all know, however I am looking for some help.

We have a square top main that often gets tangled in the lazy jacks. I'm ok with the up down to clear it unless someone knows of a trick releasing the lazys or using the topping lift. The part I need help with are the reeling lines (3) not running clean and fast. I'm thinking of smaller lines without giving up strength nor wearability. Also considering not taking up the slack when coming down.

Speaking of coming down, the main doesn't like to drop as quickly as I had hoped. It often requires the crew to go up with a boat hook to pull it down. Fine for nice weather, but dangerous in big breeze or storms. Any advice?

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For droping the mainsail in a fuzzz, the answer? ANTAL.. quite expensive..
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Old 06-10-2016, 03:01   #18
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Re: faster mainsail dropping? Reefing mod?

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Hi Chris,

not sure about your reefing lines since we never pull these in when lowering the main - we just put them into the lazy bag upon closing.

As to the main not coming down, that is a routine maintenance thing. Use Teflon spray on the rollers whenever it starts to get sticky. We were told to never use WD40 there, so I am relaying this without knowing the exact reason.

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Bad advice, i tell you why,, any kind of WD or teflon or whatever lubricant repellent spray in the batten cars and the torlon balls start to stop spin evenly inside of the races,, i see thousands of torlon balls toasted by one side and the other in fine shape, fresh water and soap, thats all.... cheers.
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Re: faster mainsail dropping? Reefing mod?

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Hi Chris,

not sure about your reefing lines since we never pull these in when lowering the main - we just put them into the lazy bag upon closing.

As to the main not coming down, that is a routine maintenance thing. Use Teflon spray on the rollers whenever it starts to get sticky. We were told to never use WD40 there, so I am relaying this without knowing the exact reason.

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WD40 leaves an oily residue which will attract grit. Grit causes wear. Same applies to any similar product.

Use something like Mclube. A dry film teflon based lubricant. Ideal for sail tracks.

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Re: faster mainsail dropping? Reefing mod?

We were told that part of the problem is that the top lines of the lazy jacks are generally fitted on the spreaders too close to the mast. If you move the connections closer to the ends of the spreaders, the lazy jacks are more open and its easier to get the sail down.
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We were told that part of the problem is that the top lines of the lazy jacks are generally fitted on the spreaders too close to the mast. If you move the connections closer to the ends of the spreaders, the lazy jacks are more open and its easier to get the sail down.
I do not think the lazy is an issue when lowering the sails (if keeping properly into the wind).
However, opening the setup on top may help when raising mainsail.
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