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24-11-2013, 03:09
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Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Geelong,Australia
Boat: Lagoon 440 Pathfinder
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Best Halyard Replacement?
Ime to replace the main halyard and i was wondering what people are using and happy with.
It seems i could spend a lot of $$$ on a new one ?
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24-11-2013, 03:27
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Re: Best halyard replacement?
Spectra if you are not pinching pennies
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24-11-2013, 03:57
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Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Geelong,Australia
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How long should spectra last?
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24-11-2013, 10:38
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Marine Service Provider
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Re: Best halyard replacement?
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Originally Posted by dirkdig
How long should spectra last?
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It depends on how you use it. It is pretty impervious to UV, so the only real threat is chaff, and it is pretty chaff resistant as well. Assuming it doesn't have any particular wear, 4-5 years is common on race boats, I haven't really seen them fail yet on cruisers.
Assuming of course you don't go really small. One of the boats I sail on uses halyard locks, so our halyard is 7/64" to reduce weight, but has to be replaced every year.
What size and material is your current halyard?
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24-11-2013, 10:43
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I've used 1/4" coated Vectran as the main halyard for the past two years with no downside other than it is slippery and requires a few extra turns on the winch.
Ron
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24-11-2013, 13:06
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Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Geelong,Australia
Boat: Lagoon 440 Pathfinder
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Currently 14 mm double braid
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24-11-2013, 13:24
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Re: Best halyard replacement?
12mm Spectraspeed. 2 years. No issues.
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Lagoon 440 Hull #30
Brisbane, Australia.
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24-11-2013, 14:20
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Location: Innisfail, North Queensland, Australia
Boat: Lagoon 380 #241
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Re: Best halyard replacement?
Quote:
Originally Posted by 2Wind
12mm Spectraspeed. 2 years. No issues.
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Yep same here. I bought a whole coil when they had a special on fluro green. Certainly brightens Seabreeze up.
Dave
Seabreeze L380 #241
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24-11-2013, 23:32
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Location: Boat in Greece
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Re: Best halyard replacement?
Assuming that you are not racing the boat, any 12-14mm line will do, with one very important quality required - no stretch line.
I assume you are aware of the fact that you should connect the ends of the old and new lines securely during the re-threading process to avoid parting of the lines (usually it happens at the least convenient place like masthead...)
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24-11-2013, 23:55
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No racing for us just cruising the oceans.
Will stich the ends securely during change over.
Time to look for non stretch line.
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25-11-2013, 01:59
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Location: Innisfail, North Queensland, Australia
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Re: Best halyard replacement?
I don't know about the 440, but with the 380, if you want to retain the 2 to 1 purchase you'll need to splice a small loop in the new halyard ready for the shackle at the top of the mast. Then you need to work a way to be hauled up the mast with the old main halyard or use the genoa halyard.
Cut the old halyard loop off before stitching to new halyard to draw it up & down through the mast. Just need to think it out & its easy.
Dave
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25-11-2013, 03:37
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Location: Geelong,Australia
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Same setup on the 440
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25-11-2013, 23:28
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Re: Best halyard replacement?
I may state the obvious, but perhaps some of the readers here will benefit...
The process is as follows:
1. stitch the new line to the end of the halyard in the cockpit. You may want to cover the connection area with a strong but pliant masking tape (not too wide, to keep the connection area free to bend).
2. open the clutch in the cockpit.
3. go to the mast and start pulling down on the old halyard until the new line appears at the top of the mast and comes down to you.
4. thread the lines through the block on top of the mainsail.
5. separate the halyards and prepare a small spliced loop at the end of the new halyard (after it passed through the block).
6. connect again the halyards with a bend - the old one is still attached to the mast head and will serve as a lift for the new one.
7. climb the mast on a spare halyard - take good pliers, WD40 and a replacement shackle. You may find the old shackle to be in need of replacement.
8. Pull the new halyard up. Release it from the old one. Open the shackle, drop the old halyard down and re-connect shackle with the new halyard.
9. enjoy the process
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25-11-2013, 23:52
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Location: Innisfail, North Queensland, Australia
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Re: Best halyard replacement?
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Originally Posted by meirriba
I may state the obvious, but perhaps some of the readers here will benefit...
The process is as follows:
1. stitch the new line to the end of the halyard in the cockpit. You may want to cover the connection area with a strong but pliant masking tape (not too wide, to keep the connection area free to bend).
2. open the clutch in the cockpit.
3. go to the mast and start pulling down on the old halyard until the new line appears at the top of the mast and comes down to you.
4. thread the lines through the block on top of the mainsail.
5. separate the halyards and prepare a small spliced loop at the end of the new halyard (after it passed through the block).
6. connect again the halyards with a bend - the old one is still attached to the mast head and will serve as a lift for the new one.
7. climb the mast on a spare halyard - take good pliers, WD40 and a replacement shackle. You may find the old shackle to be in need of replacement.
8. Pull the new halyard up. Release it from the old one. Open the shackle, drop the old halyard down and re-connect shackle with the new halyard.
9. enjoy the process
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Meirriba,
Well said, I did exactly the same except, as I didn't have a spare halyard that went to the very top of the mast I used the new main halyard as 1:1 (with the genoa halyard as a safety line), with enough extra length (mast height length plus) & bend to get hauled up the mast to do the swap over. And yes I replaced the shackle with a new one as the old looked a little worn.
Dave
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Innisfail, North Queensland, Australia ... Cruising the waters of the Great Barrier Reef
www.sea-breeze.com.au
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26-11-2013, 13:12
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Re: Best halyard replacement?
If there is a 2:1 purchase on the main then it dead ends on the mast crane not the sail. Ideally there is a sheave which the line is eye spliced onto that attaches to the mast crane with a pull pin. This requires a trip to the top of the mast to replace.
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