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Old 27-12-2012, 05:47   #1
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1941 Brass CW Skipper Type 6 Toilet

My boat has a 1941 brass CW Skipper Type 6 Toilet / Head and it's value and beauty will never be fully appreciated within the use of my boat.

I'm asking $2500 yet do your best to locate one online or in life and I will adjust to varied pricing.
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Re: 1941 Brass CW Skipper Type 6 Toilet

My momma said "never date a gold digger and never buy a head older than your backside".

But good luck anyway. I would suggest photos of said appliance of gorgeous elimination to back up the sales pitch.
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Re: 1941 Brass CW Skipper Type 6 Toilet

I don't care if it sells or sits on the bottom, it's in the way.
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Re: 1941 Brass CW Skipper Type 6 Toilet

I find it funny that in an open forum, someone wouldn't say something to assist in establishing a price, not in America - straight to attack mode.

I think I'm just going to deep 6 this thing and let the fish have it. I don't need the money or the hassle.
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Re: 1941 Brass CW Skipper Type 6 Toilet

nikko if you really want to make that sale you need to see this other post that's going on right now at cf. enough of this stuff would make your head worth its weight in gold.

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Re: 1941 Brass CW Skipper Type 6 Toilet

Nikko, a few, I hope salient, points:

a) I'm not American. Plenty of people here aren't, and I think the site owner is in South America, maybe.

b) It's a 70-year-old sea bog of unknown make and provenance. Asking for a photo is hardly unreasonable, and if you know of a way to value such a museum piece, do share. It's customary when flogging an obscure item (and a brass WWII khazi qualifies) to offer photos, a more detailed description and/or a suggested price. Consult the "how to haggle" scene in Life of Brian for guidance here.

c) If you perceive my attempt at old nautical toilet humour as an attack, you should see a doctor. You may have a critically thin skin.

Fair winds to you, your ancient brass biffy, and your old boat.
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I am I interested and would consider an offer with some exception. Please provide a picture. Will you cover shipping? Why would you canter between overboard and 2 grand?
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Re: 1941 Brass CW Skipper Type 6 Toilet

Ok...I was going to hold my tongue when you first posted it but since you have decided to get poopy (pardon the pun) to the members here, let me start by saying the thing is not worth what you're asking. They were under a grand when they made them. Secondly they are called a Wilcox Critten Skipper head.
Here is one that was for sale on CF at the beginning of the year...
Wilcox Crittenden Skipper II marine toilette
People have asked if you could post a picture but that seems to upset you. But you posted a picture of it on craigslist in your area and for $3k to boot.
If you offered it at $200 plus shipping (which is all it's worth IMHO), you would be $200 richer and not polluting the water by chucking it over the side.
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Re: 1941 Brass CW Skipper Type 6 Toilet

nikko -

first understand this important lesson in haggling, then we can start this whole
thread over again.


BRIAN: How much? Quick.
HARRY THE HAGGLER: What?
BRIAN: It's for the wife.
HARRY THE HAGGLER: Oh. Uhhh, twenty shekels.
BRIAN: Right.
HARRY THE HAGGLER: What?
BRIAN: There you are.
HARRY THE HAGGLER: Wait a minute.
BRIAN: What?
HARRY THE HAGGLER: Well, we're-- we're supposed to haggle.
BRIAN: No, no. I've got to get--
HARRY THE HAGGLER: What do you mean, 'no, no, no'?
BRIAN: I haven't time. I've got--
HARRY THE HAGGLER: Well, give it back, then.
BRIAN: No, no, no. I just paid you.
HARRY THE HAGGLER: Burt!
BURT: Yeah?
HARRY THE HAGGLER: This bloke won't haggle.
BURT: Won't haggle?!
BRIAN: All right. Do we have to?
HARRY THE HAGGLER: Now, look. I want twenty for that.
BRIAN: I-- I just gave you twenty.
HARRY THE HAGGLER: Now, are you telling me that's not worth twenty shekels?
BRIAN: No.
HARRY THE HAGGLER: Look at it. Feel the quality. That's none of your goat.
BRIAN: All right. I'll give you nineteen then.
HARRY THE HAGGLER: No, no, no. Come on. Do it properly.
BRIAN: What?
HARRY THE HAGGLER: Haggle properly. This isn't worth nineteen.
BRIAN: Well, you just said it was worth twenty.
HARRY THE HAGGLER: Ohh, dear. Ohh, dear. Come on. Haggle.
BRIAN: Huh. All right. I'll give you ten.
HARRY THE HAGGLER: That's more like it. Ten?! Are you trying to insult me?! Me, with a poor dying grandmother?! Ten?!
BRIAN: All right. I'll give you eleven.
HARRY THE HAGGLER: Now you're gettin' it. Eleven?! Did I hear you right?! Eleven?! This cost me twelve. You want to ruin me?!
BRIAN: Seventeen?
HARRY THE HAGGLER: No, no, no, no. Seventeen.
BRIAN: Eighteen?
HARRY THE HAGGLER: No, no. You go to fourteen now.
BRIAN: All right. I'll give you fourteen.
HARRY THE HAGGLER: Fourteen?! Are you joking?!
BRIAN: That's what you told me to say.
HARRY THE HAGGLER: Ohh, dear.
BRIAN: Ohh, tell me what to say. Please!
HARRY THE HAGGLER: Offer me fourteen.
BRIAN: I'll give you fourteen.
HARRY THE HAGGLER: He's offering me fourteen for this!
BRIAN: Fifteen!
HARRY THE HAGGLER: Seventeen. My last word. I won't take a penny less, or strike me dead.
BRIAN: Sixteen.
HARRY THE HAGGLER: Done.
Nice to do business with you.
BRIAN: Huh.
HARRY THE HAGGLER: Tell you what. I'll throw you in this as well.
BRIAN: I don't want it, but thanks.
HARRY THE HAGGLER: Burt!
BURT: Yeah?
BRIAN: All right! All right! All right!
HARRY THE HAGGLER: Now, where's the sixteen you owe me?
BRIAN: I just gave you twenty.
HARRY THE HAGGLER: Oh, yeah. That's right. That's four I owe you, then.
BRIAN: Well, that's all right. That's fine. That's fine.
HARRY THE HAGGLER: No. Hang on. I've got it here somewhere.
BRIAN: That's all right. That's four for the gourd.
HARRY THE HAGGLER: Four? For this gourd? Four?! Look at it. It's worth ten if it's worth a shekel.
BRIAN: But you just gave it to me for nothing.
HARRY THE HAGGLER: Yes, but it's worth ten!
BRIAN: All right. All right.
HARRY THE HAGGLER: No, no, no, no. It's not worth ten. You're supposed to argue, 'Ten for that? You must be mad!' Ohh, well. [sniff] One born every minute.

ok nikko, now get to it!
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Re: 1941 Brass CW Skipper Type 6 Toilet

I finally have no choice other than to jump on the poop wagon.

Wilcox Crittenden Skipper heads are one of the best marine toilets made. I recently acquired two of them from separate sellers over the past year and a half. Each required a rebuild kit ($120ea) and one of them also needed a piston lever($150)

So....how much did I pay for my two bronze, not brass heads? The first I found for $25 dollars and for the second WC Crittenden Skipper head I paid a whopping $75 dollars. After disassemble and rebuild + a little bit of fresh paint, I have a total of about $250 in each of my two heads.

$2,500 does seem a bit high, but you never know - you might find someone that collects marine sanitation devices and needs a WC Skipper to complete his/her collection before they die.

Another strategy might be to ask $5,000 for the head, but indicate that you may be "willing to negotiate".

Best of luck.
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Re: 1941 Brass CW Skipper Type 6 Toilet

I just bought a NEW head for $159. In fact, a couple of years ago I bought my current boat for $500 less than you want for your head. To buy a used loo, that is 71 going on 72 years old, possibly in need of a rebuild, that I would have to polish or get someone else to polish, (ewwww) I think I would have to see pics and possibly an initial price of no more than 10x its actual value. I guess it would be cool to have a brass (or more likely bronze) pooper, but you are asking a lot, wanting folks to pay so much, sight-unseen. Is the seat also brass? (or bronze) Seems like it would be kinda chilly on the backside, in cooler temperatures.

I have a feeling that any offer I could make would only seem like an insult.
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Re: 1941 Brass CW Skipper Type 6 Toilet

Actually, I found one on ebay with a minimum bid of $1000. 0 bids though. I guess everybody thinks these things are made of gold except those of us who don't have one for sale.

Seriously, watch the one on ebay and see what it goes for. That should give you a general idea of what you can expect to get for yours.
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Re: 1941 Brass CW Skipper Type 6 Toilet

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Actually, I found one on ebay with a minimum bid of $1000. 0 bids though. I guess everybody thinks these things are made of gold except those of us who don't have one for sale.

Seriously, watch the one on ebay and see what it goes for. That should give you a general idea of what you can expect to get for yours.
and looking at the "sold listings" on ebay, one old, good looking, skipper head went for $275 (1 bid), a newer skipper-II sold for $400. on craigs, they seem to list for less than that. This should give an idea about the value.
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Re: 1941 Brass CW Skipper Type 6 Toilet

I'm a poor disabled Veteran - I live on my boat - anchored in the bay - I cant afford moorage - I'm slowly trying to restore my 1941 boat back to original condition - I currently **** in a bucket, so I can use the head - I cant afford it or the shipping but will gladly take it off your hands if you would donate it to me -It would be for a good cause - every time I dump my bucket, I get paranoid. I have irritable bowel syndrome as it is. My life would be so much easier if I didnt have to sit on a bucket 6 times a day! I promise I'll keep it highly polished and engrave your name in it as the donor. Hopefully this addition will add value to my antique sailboat - I'm hoping some day to sell it as a museum piece. Please consider my request before you send it to the fish!
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Re: 1941 Brass CW Skipper Type 6 Toilet

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I don't care if it sells or sits on the bottom, it's in the way.
--so you self-twisted your own knickers?
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