Cruisers Forum
 


Join CruisersForum Today

Reply
 
Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
Old 06-03-2010, 19:34   #1
Registered User

Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 120
Rocna or Manson Anchor ?

We are ready to get a new generation anchor to replace our CQR, but wonder about its compatibility with the anchor storage system of our Fountaine pajot catamaran.
Does anybody have experience with fitting this type of anchor on a Bahia 46 or Belize 43?
What size anchor did you chose?
__________________

__________________
claire
claire is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-03-2010, 22:31   #2
Registered User
 
scotte's Avatar

Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: SF Bay Area, CA, USA
Boat: Privilege 39
Posts: 664
In general, I think the bows on cats are well suited to large anchors such as these. I just fitted a 60# Manson Supreme on our Privilege 39, and there was no problem at all. I don't know if your FP is different or similar. All the sizing guides suggested a 45# for our boat, so I got a 60# instead, and I'm really glad I did - Though to be fair I haven't used it yet, the larger anchor is in no way oversized for the roller...
__________________

scotte is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-03-2010, 05:51   #3
Marine Service Provider
 
Factor's Avatar

Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Brisbane Australia
Boat: Corsair Dash MKII
Posts: 4,088
As far as I know scotte the FP pulls the anchor up under the bridgedeck and not onto the bows.
__________________
Factor is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-03-2010, 07:19   #4
Registered User

Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 120
Quote:
the FP pulls the anchor up under the bridgedeck and not onto the bows.
Which is the reason for the question
__________________
claire
claire is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-03-2010, 07:44   #5
Elvish meaning 'Far-Wanderer'
 
Palarran's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Me - Michigan / Boat - Tenerife
Boat: 56' Fountaine Pajot Marquises
Posts: 2,641
Maybe you should pm Fullsail. He has a Bahia also and my have an opinion. I've chartered a Bahia and can't see any reason why any anchor would have a problem. It pulls up well below the netting and there is plenty of room for the shank.
__________________
Not all who wander are lost

http://www.sailblogs.com/member/palarran/
Palarran is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-03-2010, 08:02   #6
Registered User

Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: SW Florida
Boat: FP Belize, 43' - Dot Dun
Posts: 3,434
FWIW, I have a 44# Delta on my Belize, works fine. Looking at the Rocna & Manson, I don't see a problem. I do know that my Fortress FX55 will not work, it would require rework of the roller/guard, the flukes are too long and hit the fiberglass.
__________________
DotDun is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 07-03-2010, 08:50   #7
Registered User
 
scotte's Avatar

Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: SF Bay Area, CA, USA
Boat: Privilege 39
Posts: 664
Quote:
Originally Posted by Factor View Post
As far as I know scotte the FP pulls the anchor up under the bridgedeck and not onto the bows.
Ah, OK sorry, please ignore my previous comment, sorry for posting incorrect/useless information.
scotte is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 27-03-2010, 22:51   #8
Registered User

Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Auckland/Mediterranean
Boat: Orana 44
Posts: 37
I have a 33kg Rocna installed in 2008 on my FP Orana. The size was recommended by Rocna NZ, it fits okay but its big and you can check the size on the Rocna website. We anchor all the time as we never use marinas, two seasons from the UK to Greece. Last year more than a hundred consecutive nights at anchor from Spain via Italian waters to Greece. Its been totally reliable, needing re-laying once or twice. I researched the information on the web and chose the Rocna over the Supreme as there is no slot in the shank - various opinions expressed was that the slot could weaken the anchor over time. Yes they are expensive but less so when viewed than one night in an Italian marina could cost 100-150 Euros a night!
__________________
Orana 44
The Med
oranaman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28-03-2010, 04:53   #9
Registered User

Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 120
Thank you, Oranaman, that's exactly what I wanted to know. We cut a profile of the 33kg Rocna in cardboard, based on the published dimensions, and figured it should fit through the hole. Is it held nicely secure without hitting the hull while sailing?
We have one on order, should get it in a week or 2.
__________________
claire
claire is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28-03-2010, 05:51   #10
Registered User

Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Auckland/Mediterranean
Boat: Orana 44
Posts: 37
Yes the Orana has an adjustable rope which holds the anchor tight on the roller. I should mention that as the anchor comes up through the roller there is a tendency for the shank to smash into the fibreglass directly above the roller. My solution to this is to cover up the fibreglass with a piece of right-angle stainless. This explanation hopefully will be obvious once you install the anchor and try to retrieve it. I don't have a photo and can't readly take one as the boat is currently 9000 miles away.
__________________
Orana 44
The Med
oranaman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28-03-2010, 15:29   #11
Registered User

Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: FL
Boat: Far East Mariner 40
Posts: 652
We used a Manson 60 lb. with our 30,000 lb sailboat, we have anchored in one hurricane and a number of strong gales. Without a doubt it is the best anchor we have ever used. Never, ever dragged and will set so fast it stops the boat dead... I love the anchor...
__________________
Islandmike is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 23-01-2012, 13:49   #12
Registered User

Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: On board
Boat: Fountaine Pajot Bahia, Maestro. 46' Ta-b
Posts: 26
Re: Rocna or Manson Anchor ?

Island Mike - I aim right behind you with your anchor. We have a Rocna and it is great. Never moves. The Manson is a direct copy of the Rocna (this is well documented on the Rocna site) so will work the same.

Russell

If you ain't living on the edge, you are taking up too much space
__________________
Russell7171 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 23-01-2012, 14:05   #13
Senior Cruiser
 
rebel heart's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 6,190
Images: 3
Re: Rocna or Manson Anchor ?

Speaking just about the manson supreme, like others say it stops the boat on a dime and holds it there. I have a quite oversized model (60 pounds for a 14 ton boat) on an all chain rode. There are some good shots over on the rocna wiki in regards to mounting options if you have standard rollers; the rocnas and manson supremes have similar roller issues.
__________________
rebel heart is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-01-2013, 07:45   #14
Registered User

Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: On Board
Boat: Fontaine Pajot Belize 43ft
Posts: 14
Re: Rocna or Manson Anchor ?

Quote:
Originally Posted by claire View Post
Thank you, Oranaman, that's exactly what I wanted to know. We cut a profile of the 33kg Rocna in cardboard, based on the published dimensions, and figured it should fit through the hole. Is it held nicely secure without hitting the hull while sailing?
We have one on order, should get it in a week or 2.
We also have a Belize and are considering the Rocna 33kg. How did you get on with it?
__________________
Belize 43 crew is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-01-2013, 09:17   #15
Registered User

Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 120
Re: Rocna or Manson Anchor ?

Belize 43 crew,

We are quite happy with our rocna 33 on the bahia 46. Like the other posters, we have anchored extensively all over the places (from Asia to the med) with it and only dragged twice: once when we brought up a big canvas bag and the other time when we brought grass up.
The size is optimum for the boat and just fits as you can see on the pic.
We have had no problem keeping it tight under way nor hitting the fiberglass when getting it up.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	pics rocna 001small.jpg
Views:	191
Size:	107.4 KB
ID:	52338  
__________________

__________________
claire
claire is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
anchor

Thread Tools
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Rocna vs Manson Supreme Anchors WP007 Anchoring & Mooring 70 23-07-2013 10:11
Bowsprit and Manson Anchor josealegria Construction, Maintenance & Refit 0 29-09-2009 18:17
Will be trying out a Rocna anchor rsn48 Anchoring & Mooring 162 04-04-2009 01:14
Received my Manson Anchor Strygaldwir Anchoring & Mooring 31 29-07-2008 12:21



Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -7. The time now is 10:09.


Google+
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Social Knowledge Networks
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.

ShowCase vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.